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	<title>Comments on: Pragmatists vs &#8230; Achievement Junkies?</title>
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		<title>By: Underachieving Achievements &#171; Healing for loots in the World of Warcraft</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/pragmatists-vs-achievement-junkies/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Underachieving Achievements &#171; Healing for loots in the World of Warcraft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 7 days. There is another blogger around on my server, he plays Horde and made a post today about achievements and I thought I&#8217;d pass comment on it and make some of my own [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 7 days. There is another blogger around on my server, he plays Horde and made a post today about achievements and I thought I&#8217;d pass comment on it and make some of my own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tarsus</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/pragmatists-vs-achievement-junkies/#comment-240</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I think the word you are looking for is &quot;completion-ists.&quot;  Or perhaps perfectionists.

Yakra&#039;s solution is definitely elegant, but is probably going to end up with someone getting left behind anyway.  If you overgear the instances enough to do the short-manned achievements, you&#039;re probably part of a raid group, and if your and your friends raid groups happen to be divisible into 20s on the night in question, you&#039;re lucky.  It&#039;s the benching problem, just worse because it might be the only shot you&#039;re going to get that achievement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think the word you are looking for is &#8220;completion-ists.&#8221;  Or perhaps perfectionists.</p>
<p>Yakra&#8217;s solution is definitely elegant, but is probably going to end up with someone getting left behind anyway.  If you overgear the instances enough to do the short-manned achievements, you&#8217;re probably part of a raid group, and if your and your friends raid groups happen to be divisible into 20s on the night in question, you&#8217;re lucky.  It&#8217;s the benching problem, just worse because it might be the only shot you&#8217;re going to get that achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: Yakra</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/pragmatists-vs-achievement-junkies/#comment-239</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, you grab some friends, and run two 20man raids. 

That&#039;s what my guild is doing tonight, actually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, you grab some friends, and run two 20man raids. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what my guild is doing tonight, actually.</p>
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		<title>By: *vlad*</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is much QQing regarding Blizzard&#039;s decision to remove a rare mount reward for one of the Raid achievements when patch 3 comes out, and it&#039;s the Achievement junkies who are the ones making the noise.

Now this Achievement (can&#039;t look it up, I&#039;m at work) involves some seriously hard raid Achievements (eg fighting KelThuzad whilst snowboarding down Mt Hyjal  blindfolded, or some such nonsense), and it seems it is very difficult to complete. 

Most of the people I know doing it, have done maybe half of the ahcievements, but they are complaining that there simply isn&#039;t enough time to get the rest done before 3 comes out.

Ok, so 99% of us have no chance of completing these anyway, whether through a mixture of time, effort, or lack of interest, but for those are aiming to do them, it is seen as a slap in the face.

If Blizzard are going to give people all these hoops to jump through, then they should make sure that those interested in doing them have a decent incentive to do so, otherwise the whole thing will fall flat on its face.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is much QQing regarding Blizzard&#8217;s decision to remove a rare mount reward for one of the Raid achievements when patch 3 comes out, and it&#8217;s the Achievement junkies who are the ones making the noise.</p>
<p>Now this Achievement (can&#8217;t look it up, I&#8217;m at work) involves some seriously hard raid Achievements (eg fighting KelThuzad whilst snowboarding down Mt Hyjal  blindfolded, or some such nonsense), and it seems it is very difficult to complete. </p>
<p>Most of the people I know doing it, have done maybe half of the ahcievements, but they are complaining that there simply isn&#8217;t enough time to get the rest done before 3 comes out.</p>
<p>Ok, so 99% of us have no chance of completing these anyway, whether through a mixture of time, effort, or lack of interest, but for those are aiming to do them, it is seen as a slap in the face.</p>
<p>If Blizzard are going to give people all these hoops to jump through, then they should make sure that those interested in doing them have a decent incentive to do so, otherwise the whole thing will fall flat on its face.</p>
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		<title>By: unwise</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/pragmatists-vs-achievement-junkies/#comment-236</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the word you&#039;re looking for is &#039;retentives&#039; ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the word you&#8217;re looking for is &#8216;retentives&#8217; <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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