Comments on: Fun with Vigilance

By: spinks

spinks — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:59:32 +0000

That would have been a fair response, like with paladins messing around and putting blessing of protection on the tank

It’s just that in Wrath, tank threat has been ramped up hugely (well, in current content at least) so as long as you make sure not to pick a threat sensitive fight, they’d likely be way way more than 10% ahead of the pack.

In Sartharion for example, the Sartharion tank is really the only person on him while the raid busies itself with killing various adds and avoiding fires. So they have a few minutes to build threat and will have tons to spare.

It is polite to mention it in advance though

By: ixobelle

ixobelle — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:50:05 +0000

I think it’s an interesting idea, and seems modeled after “Save Da Runts” in warhammer.

BUT.

You mention putting it on an MT to keep your taunt cooled down. Not sure how tanking threat really is these days (used to MT 40 man raids back in the day), but anyone ‘nicking 10% of my threat’ if I’m MTing is going to get a swift kick in the nads, just out of principle.

By: Tarsus

Tarsus — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:11:29 +0000

Number one use for Vigilance for me is trash, definitely. With it, most trash dies before the mage AoE can pull agro – a good thing. Second most frequent use is probably abusing the taunt privileges. Having a macro for casting vigilance on the target of target is handy.

I’ve often joked about it as being the “badge of shame” for irresponsible DPS. But, then again, my guild is practically a poster child for irresponsible DPS so, what can you do?

By: Yakra

Yakra — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:34:05 +0000

I’ve always been a fan of it, and I use it in tons of places. Gothik, OS, Noth (put it on an add tank, and you can chain taunt him when he teleports), Anub’rekan (for adds), Loatheb for Spore Loser spore-hearding, Gluth zombie-hearding – and of course all trash everywhere.

By: Cassini

Cassini — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:54:57 +0000

As a mage I LOVED this buff. Seriously. LOVED it. Give it to a mage and you’ll have made a dps friend for life.

By: mydeathknight

mydeathknight — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:53:53 +0000

I can see why warriors would prefer 10% extra damage, they were the traditional raid MT. I’m writing this as a Paladin Main Tank (ignore my tag name.. it was a brief infatuation!!).

I started out as a Warriors off-tank (his gear/HP were better to start with), and was asked to only use Auto Attack in fights because I needed to save my mana (we get mana back from aggro through dodge/block/parry with BoSanc) and I was taking his aggro and despite the fact he used vigilance on a gung ho Survival Hunter.

This ‘ludicrous’ request was debated in our guild because I moaned about it! I argued the raid needed my dps and that a warrior has a better tool box for off tanking than a paladin. I believed an Intervene/Intercept/Charge taunting warrior is far better in the role…. So we switched places to try it and I noticed that he started using vigilance on me straight away.

I think he was offended initially by my moans, he made a great point about needing rage as much as I needed mana… but he now says is enjoying off tanking more than he thought he would. It seems the perfect line up. He has no problems with Adds, has taunt available all the time and pings about the raid while I maintain an aggro AOE.