Would you choose the same class again today?

I was writing last week about recent tweaks to warriors in the PTR that were going to result in Fury scaling better with Strength than Attack Power, and hence favouring plate over leather.

Bo@Vampiric Embrace riffs off this with a thoughtful look at why he’s not fond of dps warriors in raids and prefers them to tank.¬† Or in his words:

DPS is OK for Ret Pallies and Death Knights, the other two plate wearers, but I have a problem with DPS Warriors.

From an objective point of view, he notes that given three plate wearing classes/ specs who do similar dps but one needs more healing and brings less buffs, why would you want to bring the latter.

I don’t want to diss him (or encourage anyone else to do that) since I like to see people examining their own opinions to figure out where they came from. And also he’s right, although dps warriors have been posting very high numbers recently – but they’ll come into line next patch.

And as an aside, Death Knights, Druids, and Paladins are actually  stronger tanks at the moment than warriors also, at least in terms of threat, dps, buffs, and survivability.

A thread on the WoW US boards even asks whether Warriors should always get MT priority, on the grounds that they’re more useless than the other tanks when not main tanking. And several respondants say, quite reasonably, that if one tank is less flexible in one area and the others are all equally good, maybe it’s better to just not take them at all.

So my question is: If you were starting again, knowing what you know now about class roles and balance, would you pick the same class again today? Would you recommend it to anyone else?

I would.

I have played a few classes and liked them, but my warrior was my first and always my favourite. I really like the more involved playstyle and find her fun to play. She is perfectly well able to tank or dps any encounter in the game (apart from the really gimmicky ones like sarth+3, and people have done that with a warrior tank).

No one knows what future patches hold or how class balance will change in future. But whether or not a class is fun to play is a fairly core mechanic. Also, every class (aside from hunters in LOTRO) has their gripes and problems.

And the other reason I’d stick with Spinks?

CHAAAARGE!!

(I apologise for this being a quickie. I am that person who forgot to move their clocks forwards yesterday. )

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13 thoughts on “Would you choose the same class again today?

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  2. I’ve had a lot of characters over the years, only two however, have reached end game in any of the WoW incarnations. Still my Shaman (even though they have their issues) is the most fun character I’ve played so if I had to start again, even though I get urges to try Druids and Pallies and Mages etc.. I reckon I’d fire up the Shaman again.

  3. I played a tank warrior to 80 and got him up to Naxx. At a certain point in time playing became a chore, because I had to deal with heaps of lousy players, tons of QQ and whatnot. It was fun, but I’m not a social warrior so to speak and I don’t like having battles on chat all day long. Now I’m leveling a rogue. It’s still meele, but hassle free. It has nothing to do with specific stats, just pure gameplay fun. I wouldn’t recommend warriors to new players either.

  4. Yep, I would roll my Warrior all over again. I love tanking as a Warrior. If anything, it is harder to face roll the keyboard and tank well with a Warrior as it is with a Pally or DK.

  5. I have a warrior. I like the playstyle. I have mild frustrations with a few things that other tanks do better, but warrior makes me happy enough to accept those frustrations.

    Ironically, I’m mainly a tank, but I like the DPS playstyle of a warrior much more than the tank playstyle. Tank is too many buttons too fast, and DPS feels just about right.

    I was looking forward to dual-wielding 2H axes when patch 3.1 came out… and then I learned that they’re planning on adding an in-combat Charge to the Arms tree. Argh! I’m torn. Charge is just so much fun that I may need to dual-spec into arms.

  6. I change mains quite often. I was a hunter pre-BC, but then I realized on an alt that I love healing, so I started a priest from scratch and healed throughout BC. But then when Wrath came out, I realized I liked healing on a druid more than I liked healing on a priest, so I dropped my priest like a hot potato and rerolled a brand new druid back in October. If I ever think that another class is more fun than my main, I switch that class to my main.

    The funny thing about warriors is, I have not had a single warrior tank for me since I started my journey in Northrend. Or a druid, for that matter, except for our feral DPS switching to bear form to offtank something. Tanks have exclusively been paladins and death knights. If we even HAVE a warrior in our raid, it’s a DPS warrior. One of my best friends from BC, who was a tank back then, has been fury since 3.0.

  7. I’d definitely roll a warrior again, but that’s because the 3.0 class changes have reinforced what I like most about prot warriors: durable, stubborn, hard-hitting SOBs who simply refuse to die. I really enjoy the priority queue, with shield slams, concussions, shockwaves and all that good stuff. And I’ve never regretted rolling a shaman.

    But not everybody feels the same way. I’m thinking of all the changes to shadow priests. Vampiric embrace used to be an effective group heal, but now only returns 5% of shadow damage as healing. The mana regen mechanic of vampiric touch was completely unique…until we entered the Era of Replenishment. Vampiric embrace/touch were core abilities for the class/spec, but they don’t feel as powerful. I know a shadow priest who has lost all enthusiasm and rerolled…and how often do you see priests in shadowform, compared to Burning Crusade? I also wonder how resto druids will feel after 3.1, since they’re being, um, heavily encouraged to stop rolling HOTs and start using more direct heals.

    So I think class changes can be problematic if they detract from the core abilities or mechanics of a class or spec.

  8. As someone who missed the vanilla endgame, raided as a rogue in TBC, and now raids as a shadow priest, I’m undecided.

    The rogue changes with Wrath left me unimpressed and after a couple of runs of Naxx, I leveled my priest to 80 and made it my new main. However, my current disatisfaction with raiding as shadow (the low level of difficulty in Naxx and other raids probably has a lot to do with it) have me wondering if I should be changing main yet again. (And I’ve never healed, so that’s not really on the table as an alternative)

    I’m not really interested in bringing back my rogue (especially as she’d need to be geared up before Ulduar), so I think I’d have to say that while I’d still have the same classes, I suspect my choice of main wouldn’t be the same.

    (I’m currently trying to avoid burnout by gearing up my warrior as a tank, while I consider my alternatives.)

  9. melee is me. and wearing plates i guess came with it. rogue playstyle, hmmm.. . maybe i will try but i don’t like lurking so much. i like it out in the open, mano y mano. plus i don’t wanna do the same thing the entire game. read: just be DPS or tank always.

    i had too much frustrations over my warrior though. i felt it was too weak in both DPS and tanking. but this was before LK. i’m leveling it again just so i could try it out. the last 10 levels to 80 is almost like a pain doing it. i thought i’d just delete my warrior or make her a utility toon. this is like rolling the same class again for me.. .

    leveling a DK was too easy, what with self-heals and all that. no need to sit and eat.

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