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		<title>By: AFK - April 12 &#171; Bio Break</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-633</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] We all want to be the big damn hero. Or maybe, according to Spinks, we don&#8217;t.  Or can&#8217;t. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We all want to be the big damn hero. Or maybe, according to Spinks, we don&#8217;t.  Or can&#8217;t. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-626</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love protection spec as it is right now, it does play well. Glad you&#039;re enjoying it also :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love protection spec as it is right now, it does play well. Glad you&#8217;re enjoying it also <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-625</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think CoH has some fantastic ways to let people play together! I love how the instances scale to the number of people, and the sidekick/exemplar mechanic. I always found the game itself a bit dull but am having fun with my new character which is a blaster.

I know what you mean about small groups also, I think it&#039;s partly why the 10 man raids were so popular (as well as being easier to assemble). As the group gets bigger, you get relegated to your assigned role and yelled at if you step out of line (gets more regimented I think). In a smaller group, just like working in a small company, you have to think on your feet more and you can see what everyone else is doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think CoH has some fantastic ways to let people play together! I love how the instances scale to the number of people, and the sidekick/exemplar mechanic. I always found the game itself a bit dull but am having fun with my new character which is a blaster.</p>
<p>I know what you mean about small groups also, I think it&#8217;s partly why the 10 man raids were so popular (as well as being easier to assemble). As the group gets bigger, you get relegated to your assigned role and yelled at if you step out of line (gets more regimented I think). In a smaller group, just like working in a small company, you have to think on your feet more and you can see what everyone else is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-624</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never did find people to do Darrowshire with, but it was a super storyline. I liked the Tirion Fordring one a lot too.

And I really really hope Icecrown won&#039;t be disappointing. I love that we can get excited about it though. Which I really am not about Ulduar (yeah titans yawn).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never did find people to do Darrowshire with, but it was a super storyline. I liked the Tirion Fordring one a lot too.</p>
<p>And I really really hope Icecrown won&#8217;t be disappointing. I love that we can get excited about it though. Which I really am not about Ulduar (yeah titans yawn).</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really interesting point, that some of the fights have more meaning if you know more about the background so that you can give them meaning.

I think I was way more excited about killing Nefarian in vanilla WoW than I was about any TBC boss too, because of having seen him in UBRS and knowing that he was Onyxia&#039;s brother. I think the WoW writers could do a way better job of giving us more of the raid lore sprinkled among other content.

Fighting Arthas will be way epic (I hope) for the same reason. Even if I&#039;d be sad in a way to beat him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting point, that some of the fights have more meaning if you know more about the background so that you can give them meaning.</p>
<p>I think I was way more excited about killing Nefarian in vanilla WoW than I was about any TBC boss too, because of having seen him in UBRS and knowing that he was Onyxia&#8217;s brother. I think the WoW writers could do a way better job of giving us more of the raid lore sprinkled among other content.</p>
<p>Fighting Arthas will be way epic (I hope) for the same reason. Even if I&#8217;d be sad in a way to beat him.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-622</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha, I love your last metaphor. And you&#039;re right, the only way we can enjoy any kind of story from these games is to wilfully ignore all evidence that everyone else is running the same stories.

Raiding is even worse, with killing the same bosses every week.

Warhammer had quite an interesting take on the kill quests. They have kill collectors in each zone who will pay you a bounty for each monster (of whichever type they are collecting) you kill. There&#039;s no quest to pick up. You just go talk to them when you are in town and they pay you for what you killed since you last talked to them.

But they have regular quests too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I love your last metaphor. And you&#8217;re right, the only way we can enjoy any kind of story from these games is to wilfully ignore all evidence that everyone else is running the same stories.</p>
<p>Raiding is even worse, with killing the same bosses every week.</p>
<p>Warhammer had quite an interesting take on the kill quests. They have kill collectors in each zone who will pay you a bounty for each monster (of whichever type they are collecting) you kill. There&#8217;s no quest to pick up. You just go talk to them when you are in town and they pay you for what you killed since you last talked to them.</p>
<p>But they have regular quests too.</p>
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		<title>By: Aleathea</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aleathea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are few things in life that make one feel as heroic as tanking a dragon.  Right on, Spinks. Oh, and Firefly? Best show ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are few things in life that make one feel as heroic as tanking a dragon.  Right on, Spinks. Oh, and Firefly? Best show ever.</p>
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		<title>By: ixobelle</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-600</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m gonna have to say soloing on my warrior right now has me feeling pretty fucking heroic.

Quests are meh, but they&#039;re just the bread. You are the ham, and your moves are the mayonnaise. And now I want a sandwich.

But seriously, grabbing three quests to go into New Hearthglen (south of Venomspite), and going in there and just DESTROYING everything without even checking to see if I really *need* to or not, then surviving some mainy pull with 12 HP left over screams super hero to me.

I missed my warrior. It&#039;s good to be back, and hot damn (!) have they made some changes to prot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna have to say soloing on my warrior right now has me feeling pretty fucking heroic.</p>
<p>Quests are meh, but they&#8217;re just the bread. You are the ham, and your moves are the mayonnaise. And now I want a sandwich.</p>
<p>But seriously, grabbing three quests to go into New Hearthglen (south of Venomspite), and going in there and just DESTROYING everything without even checking to see if I really *need* to or not, then surviving some mainy pull with 12 HP left over screams super hero to me.</p>
<p>I missed my warrior. It&#8217;s good to be back, and hot damn (!) have they made some changes to prot.</p>
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		<title>By: koljarn</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koljarn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome topic - it cuts right to the heart of why someone wants to play a heroic fantasy MMO, and the dsign problem that arise from trying to write one.

One thing that really detracts from a heroic quest chain or encounter is raiding.  Back when I palyed WoW, I really didn&#039;t feel all that mighty when 10 or 25 of us dragged a boss down like a swarm of army ants overrunning a praying mantis.  Smaller groups give an individual a moment to stand out and show what they can do.

City of Heroes was awesome about this at launch.  You could solo missions, as they would scale to the relative strength of the individual or group.  Task Forces never involved huge numbers of players.  Of course, all of this was instanced as well, so you really were in your own pocket reality with no assistance from passers-by.  I definitely miss playing my blaster, sometimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome topic &#8211; it cuts right to the heart of why someone wants to play a heroic fantasy MMO, and the dsign problem that arise from trying to write one.</p>
<p>One thing that really detracts from a heroic quest chain or encounter is raiding.  Back when I palyed WoW, I really didn&#8217;t feel all that mighty when 10 or 25 of us dragged a boss down like a swarm of army ants overrunning a praying mantis.  Smaller groups give an individual a moment to stand out and show what they can do.</p>
<p>City of Heroes was awesome about this at launch.  You could solo missions, as they would scale to the relative strength of the individual or group.  Task Forces never involved huge numbers of players.  Of course, all of this was instanced as well, so you really were in your own pocket reality with no assistance from passers-by.  I definitely miss playing my blaster, sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tarsus</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/being-the-big-damn-hero/#comment-598</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are some pretty epic quests in WoW.  The Battle of Darrowshire quest chain is still probably the most awesome quest in any MMO I&#039;ve done, Wrathgate included.

Though I would say that the place Blizzard has the most lacking in terms of storytelling has got to be the raid instances.  We&#039;ll have to see if all this build up with Arthas is going to carry well into Icecrown Citidel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some pretty epic quests in WoW.  The Battle of Darrowshire quest chain is still probably the most awesome quest in any MMO I&#8217;ve done, Wrathgate included.</p>
<p>Though I would say that the place Blizzard has the most lacking in terms of storytelling has got to be the raid instances.  We&#8217;ll have to see if all this build up with Arthas is going to carry well into Icecrown Citidel.</p>
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