Comments on: Protection for Beginners

By: spinks

spinks — Sat, 02 May 2009 00:03:35 +0000

I think there’s definitely scope for people to switch talents around in my suggested build to pick up any of the prot talents that they really want.

I know that I never needed the improved shield wall to tank anything in the game so far and I definitely don’t see it as a requirement. But there’s no reason not to play around with it and see whether you think it is more useful for you personally to have a bit more threat or a lower cooldown on shieldwall. My advice would be try both and see which you personally find more useful. But I know this works for me.

Similarly, the vast majority of bosses do NOT deal mostly spell damage. It’s the big physical hits that will usually take out a tank. So in that context 4% spell damage sounds good but it just doesn’t represent that much of the damage that you take. I’d always seen it as more of a PvP thing. So I don’t find it a requirement, but again, if you find that you do take more spell damage then it’s always a viable option.

I don’t think there is a one true way. I’m just going with an all purpose spec that works for me. And I find maintaining threat more of an issue than staying alive right now.

By: erm

erm — Fri, 01 May 2009 19:48:42 +0000

In the talents that you didn’t choose you said that you didn’t pick Imp spell reflect because most bosses are immune to spell reflection therefore its situational; the real reason to get this talent isn’t because of the spell reflection move at all, the whole point to ever get it is because it gives you an extra 4% chance not to get hit with spells which includes bosses so saying that its a situational talent is barely true since there are many end game bosses that this will help you with. Also the improved disciplines talent is almost a requirement for new tanks as they WILL be taking a lot of damage and even if its only 1 minute less thats still viable to take to let the healers relax a little for 1 minute extra during a fight such as patchwerk.

By: ixobelle

ixobelle — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:34:46 +0000

huge part***

By: ixobelle

ixobelle — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:34:04 +0000

I really got to stop reading your site on the PSP before bed, because I come across a post like this, and want to chime in, but screw typing anything longer than a URL on that beast.

I’ve got a lot to throw in here, so let’s go!

/cast revenge
/cast !heroic strike

why the exclamation point? I’m totally fine with having two buttons for those skills, but am just curious. The only real macros I use on my warrior are:

#showtooltip
/use TRINKET OF TRINKETNESS
/cast Shockwave

and

#showtooltip
/use TRINKET OF TRINKETNESS NUMBER 2
/cast Concussion Blow

I’m horrendously lazy with trinkets that require activation manually, and so I blow them when using these two skills, which is often enough (and both my trinkets are kinda trashy +AP ones for now, and those two skills work with AP modifiers).

I think the other thing I wanted to mention that I didn’t see you cover is our active blocking thing, how we deal damage when we get hit, which is now a huge past of (passively) tanking. For AOE packs especially, it’s good to charge in, blow Shield Block, THEN Thunderclap. By having Shield Block up, it increases the damage of our ‘thorns’, and packs will stay stuck to you long enough to start spreading around shield slams and revenges to KEEP them on you.

Your posts are awesome, keep it up!

By: Stabs

Stabs — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:43:31 +0000

Excellent job, Spinks

By: spinks

spinks — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:22:14 +0000

Thanks. I didn’t realise that alliance got an axe also – figures that horde would because orcs get a bonus for using them but I’d assumed alliance would get a sword or mace. Interesting.

By: spinks

spinks — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:19:43 +0000

Ahah, thank you! I’ll put in a note about that.

By: KiwiRed

KiwiRed — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:35:40 +0000

The tanking weapon from the Tournament is either the Axe of the Sen’jin Protector (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45204 ) or the Teldrassil Protector (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45076 ), depending on whether you’re horde or alliance.

Very nice post, btw – I wish I’d had this kind of list when I was getting my prot warrior started.

By: Jacob

Jacob — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:31:56 +0000

Hi -
You proposed a macro that combines revenge and heroic strike. But the way you wrote it, it will turn on and turn off heroic strike each time you press the button If you’re mashing the fast, waiting for revenge to be ready, you’ll be turning heroic strike off as often as you turn it on.
You can change the macro to make it only turn “on” heroic strike:

/cast revenge
/cast !heroic strike

The “!” means it will only turn on heroic strike, never turn off heroic strike.

By: spinks

spinks — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:28:33 +0000

Sounds good to me!

I’m always a bit wary of starting with a Shockwave because that’s 4s in which you get no rage (because of things being stunned) and also it usually takes me a few secs to get them all lined up.