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		<title>By: Veneretio</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suffice to say, I&#039;m notoriously lucky in WoW. Back at 60, I had both bindings drop for me only 3 weeks apart. Perhaps luckier still was that back then I wasn&#039;t the MT, I was a Fury Warrior. The day the 1st binding dropped was the 1st day I had tanked in months since the MT was gone. He handled it well, I don&#039;t know if I could have. (oddly enough the 2nd one dropped when he was gone too)

The weapon was certainly unbelievable even after it got nerfed I used to all through Karazhan. It&#039;s the very reason that Improved Thunderclap and all the other tanking class&#039; attack reductions are 20% because if they&#039;d have stayed at 10% then Thunderfury would still be the best Survival weapon in the game at 80!

Which really tells you how unbelievable this weapon was. It was the best survival weapon in the game even at 70 for a time. It was the best threat weapon in the game at 60 in both Single target AND AOE tanking situations so much so that it&#039;s been nerfed numerous times at 60 and at 70. 

As to future tanking legendaries, you&#039;re probably right that a weapon won&#039;t happen especially since all 4 tanking classes must be treated equal. A pair of shoulders might be possible and certainly would allow for a legendary-level of showmanship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suffice to say, I&#8217;m notoriously lucky in WoW. Back at 60, I had both bindings drop for me only 3 weeks apart. Perhaps luckier still was that back then I wasn&#8217;t the MT, I was a Fury Warrior. The day the 1st binding dropped was the 1st day I had tanked in months since the MT was gone. He handled it well, I don&#8217;t know if I could have. (oddly enough the 2nd one dropped when he was gone too)</p>
<p>The weapon was certainly unbelievable even after it got nerfed I used to all through Karazhan. It&#8217;s the very reason that Improved Thunderclap and all the other tanking class&#8217; attack reductions are 20% because if they&#8217;d have stayed at 10% then Thunderfury would still be the best Survival weapon in the game at 80!</p>
<p>Which really tells you how unbelievable this weapon was. It was the best survival weapon in the game even at 70 for a time. It was the best threat weapon in the game at 60 in both Single target AND AOE tanking situations so much so that it&#8217;s been nerfed numerous times at 60 and at 70. </p>
<p>As to future tanking legendaries, you&#8217;re probably right that a weapon won&#8217;t happen especially since all 4 tanking classes must be treated equal. A pair of shoulders might be possible and certainly would allow for a legendary-level of showmanship.</p>
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		<title>By: pewpewlazerz</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thing is, back in the day you didn&#039;t really raise much of an eyebrow at the rampant insanity that was the requirements for Thunderfury.  They were legendary weapons, after all.  Nowadays we shake our heads in disbelief, because it WAS rampant insanity, for all the reasons you describe.  Nevertheless, getting a Thunderfury is definitely one of those things that gives you an immensse glow of satisfaction, both as a player and a guild, but only the first time.  Like doing Jailbreak, attuning to Molten Core or killing that utter bastard Vaelastrasz, it&#039;s epic and game-defining the first time and you&#039;ll always look back with fond memories, but if you had to do it again you&#039;d go nuts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is, back in the day you didn&#8217;t really raise much of an eyebrow at the rampant insanity that was the requirements for Thunderfury.  They were legendary weapons, after all.  Nowadays we shake our heads in disbelief, because it WAS rampant insanity, for all the reasons you describe.  Nevertheless, getting a Thunderfury is definitely one of those things that gives you an immensse glow of satisfaction, both as a player and a guild, but only the first time.  Like doing Jailbreak, attuning to Molten Core or killing that utter bastard Vaelastrasz, it&#8217;s epic and game-defining the first time and you&#8217;ll always look back with fond memories, but if you had to do it again you&#8217;d go nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Of shoes and ships and sealing-wax &#171; standing at the back in my sissy robe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Of shoes and ships and sealing-wax &#171; standing at the back in my sissy robe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on the eye-opening rampant insanty if the Thunderfury, Taz on, errr, well … modesty issues in Outland (how I giggled) and Pewpewlazerz (whose blog I [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the eye-opening rampant insanty if the Thunderfury, Taz on, errr, well … modesty issues in Outland (how I giggled) and Pewpewlazerz (whose blog I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IIRC it was a pretty good rogue weapon also. And you&#039;re right about tanks taking their legendary weapons and switching guilds.

For example, although we crafted the first TF on the server we weren&#039;t the first guild to have a tank wielding it. Someone server transferred with a Thunderfury. I always wondered what the story was behind that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC it was a pretty good rogue weapon also. And you&#8217;re right about tanks taking their legendary weapons and switching guilds.</p>
<p>For example, although we crafted the first TF on the server we weren&#8217;t the first guild to have a tank wielding it. Someone server transferred with a Thunderfury. I always wondered what the story was behind that.</p>
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		<title>By: Klepsacovic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Klepsacovic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked TF because it really seems legendary.  Just a random drop like the warglaives doesn&#039;t feel right; too similar to just an overhyped epic.  It was excessive though.  Still, I think it&#039;s good to have a small number of very rare (but less OP) items filled with lore which might also have some ability to not become obsolete, though also to not be BiS after an expansion.

I was lucky (or perhaps unlucky) enough to get a binding on my paladin&#039;s first run into MC about a year after BC.  Then I was obsessed with getting the other, finally getting it about a year later.  Now I have one of the coolest looking weapons in the game, though it&#039;s also &#039;useless&#039;, as much as something can be useful in a virtual fantasy world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked TF because it really seems legendary.  Just a random drop like the warglaives doesn&#8217;t feel right; too similar to just an overhyped epic.  It was excessive though.  Still, I think it&#8217;s good to have a small number of very rare (but less OP) items filled with lore which might also have some ability to not become obsolete, though also to not be BiS after an expansion.</p>
<p>I was lucky (or perhaps unlucky) enough to get a binding on my paladin&#8217;s first run into MC about a year after BC.  Then I was obsessed with getting the other, finally getting it about a year later.  Now I have one of the coolest looking weapons in the game, though it&#8217;s also &#8216;useless&#8217;, as much as something can be useful in a virtual fantasy world.</p>
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		<title>By: Anjin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anjin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;ve perfectly illustrated the eternal struggle for perfect loot balance. I don&#039;t know how many people I&#039;ve seen on my server carrying the Twin Warglaives, but it&#039;s too many. There are various types of insanity, I guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve perfectly illustrated the eternal struggle for perfect loot balance. I don&#8217;t know how many people I&#8217;ve seen on my server carrying the Twin Warglaives, but it&#8217;s too many. There are various types of insanity, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the only real flaw is that the super rare binding drops are from MC and you need to craft elementium which means you are half-way through BWL.

Alternatively you could pay a more advanced guild to craft your elementium.

I was in a guild broken by Razorgore.  Turns out we didn&#039;t have 4 hunters who could kite.

There were plenty of stories of tanks getting a Thunder-Fury and the joining a more advanced guild.  When our first binding dropped (on about our 2nd Garr(?) kill) we had no reliable tanks and it went to a rogue.  We didn&#039;t know any better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the only real flaw is that the super rare binding drops are from MC and you need to craft elementium which means you are half-way through BWL.</p>
<p>Alternatively you could pay a more advanced guild to craft your elementium.</p>
<p>I was in a guild broken by Razorgore.  Turns out we didn&#8217;t have 4 hunters who could kite.</p>
<p>There were plenty of stories of tanks getting a Thunder-Fury and the joining a more advanced guild.  When our first binding dropped (on about our 2nd Garr(?) kill) we had no reliable tanks and it went to a rogue.  We didn&#8217;t know any better.</p>
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		<title>By: Regis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Regis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back in those old days my guild (which I&#039;m still in btw) had huge problem getting both bindings. One of my RL friends was MT and started collecting it after the first half dropped. But even after we had farmed MC to pieces, cleared BWL and farmed that to pieces as well, and then some of AQ40, the other binding never dropped. I think he collected all of the Arcanite Bars and everything required on his own, but to this day one part of the binding is still in his bank ;)

It&#039;s kind of sad, because all that sort of commitment deserve its reward. Probably the most epic quest in WoW... which I guess also is the problem; it&#039;s too epic, and years of work can come to naught.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in those old days my guild (which I&#8217;m still in btw) had huge problem getting both bindings. One of my RL friends was MT and started collecting it after the first half dropped. But even after we had farmed MC to pieces, cleared BWL and farmed that to pieces as well, and then some of AQ40, the other binding never dropped. I think he collected all of the Arcanite Bars and everything required on his own, but to this day one part of the binding is still in his bank <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of sad, because all that sort of commitment deserve its reward. Probably the most epic quest in WoW&#8230; which I guess also is the problem; it&#8217;s too epic, and years of work can come to naught.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See, this is how raiding was originally envisaged in WoW. You can see how it&#039;s changed since then :) It was a bit mad. Awesome in its own way, but mad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, this is how raiding was originally envisaged in WoW. You can see how it&#8217;s changed since then <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It was a bit mad. Awesome in its own way, but mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamarind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tamarind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My God, what a story.  This is epic with a capital EPIC.  I can&#039;t quite believe that something like this was in the game and that some people managed to get through it.

The thing is, I can see something like this makes for an excellent campfire tale but it just seems ludicrous to actually expect people to do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God, what a story.  This is epic with a capital EPIC.  I can&#8217;t quite believe that something like this was in the game and that some people managed to get through it.</p>
<p>The thing is, I can see something like this makes for an excellent campfire tale but it just seems ludicrous to actually expect people to do it.</p>
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