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	<title>Comments on: Kill the raid boss &#8230; or rescue it?</title>
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		<title>By: Veneretio</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/kill-the-raid-boss-or-rescue-it/#comment-2655</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Veneretio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya, the more you stop and really look at WoW, you can&#039;t help, but ask yourself... am I one of the good guys?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, the more you stop and really look at WoW, you can&#8217;t help, but ask yourself&#8230; am I one of the good guys?</p>
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		<title>By: theerivs</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/kill-the-raid-boss-or-rescue-it/#comment-2653</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theerivs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Makes me think what happened to that WoW faction of PETA??

The problem is they don&#039;t have a good spokeswoman. A hot Night Elf saying she would rather go naked then wear Artic Fur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me think what happened to that WoW faction of PETA??</p>
<p>The problem is they don&#8217;t have a good spokeswoman. A hot Night Elf saying she would rather go naked then wear Artic Fur.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones who is blogless</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/kill-the-raid-boss-or-rescue-it/#comment-2652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Jones who is blogless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But to be honest? You&#039;ve done a lot of dubious crap in WoW already. 

I mean, Zul&#039;farrak? Where you stormed one of the few intact, uncorrupted Troll cities, killed their god so gnomes could have their race car go faster , rescued some dudes you then brutally killed, killed a rare and endangered species, killed their leaders for no readily apparent reason and desecrated a bunch of graves. You also stole some writings they were protecting in order to help an insane troll summon an elder god who eventually almost destroyed the world. 

It kinda makes the Icehowl thing seem like small time stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But to be honest? You&#8217;ve done a lot of dubious crap in WoW already. </p>
<p>I mean, Zul&#8217;farrak? Where you stormed one of the few intact, uncorrupted Troll cities, killed their god so gnomes could have their race car go faster , rescued some dudes you then brutally killed, killed a rare and endangered species, killed their leaders for no readily apparent reason and desecrated a bunch of graves. You also stole some writings they were protecting in order to help an insane troll summon an elder god who eventually almost destroyed the world. </p>
<p>It kinda makes the Icehowl thing seem like small time stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertie</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/kill-the-raid-boss-or-rescue-it/#comment-2651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bertie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone calculated once that if you did all the Nesingwary quests you&#039;d have slaughtered over 200 innocent beasts and that considering all the players that have gone through WoW over the years there have probably been over a billion creatures killed in the name of Nesingwary.

The difference is that even before WotLK Nesingwary was something of an ironic MMO self-parody of the sort that Blizzard does repeatedly, and that became even more explicit in Northrend with the D.H.E.T.A stuff.  This Argent Coliseum, however, is just...kind of weird.  Probably the clearest example yet that Blizz has taken too much talent off WoW to support other projects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone calculated once that if you did all the Nesingwary quests you&#8217;d have slaughtered over 200 innocent beasts and that considering all the players that have gone through WoW over the years there have probably been over a billion creatures killed in the name of Nesingwary.</p>
<p>The difference is that even before WotLK Nesingwary was something of an ironic MMO self-parody of the sort that Blizzard does repeatedly, and that became even more explicit in Northrend with the D.H.E.T.A stuff.  This Argent Coliseum, however, is just&#8230;kind of weird.  Probably the clearest example yet that Blizz has taken too much talent off WoW to support other projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Klepsacovic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Klepsacovic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have yet to torture any bosses, instead I am very nice and feed them dumb, but nevertheless sentient beings to eat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to torture any bosses, instead I am very nice and feed them dumb, but nevertheless sentient beings to eat.</p>
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		<title>By: Tarsus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tarsus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d say that the Northrend Beasts encounter is pretty &quot;historically accurate&quot; at least as far as tournaments of this kind go whether you look at this as more like the Roman Colosseum or Medieval Trials-of-Arms.  It kind of reminds me of the fantasy equivalent of Bear Baiting.

On that note, I don&#039;t know what standing I have to complain about such practices considering my career as an adventurer has involved killing hundreds, if not thousands, of Yeti.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that the Northrend Beasts encounter is pretty &#8220;historically accurate&#8221; at least as far as tournaments of this kind go whether you look at this as more like the Roman Colosseum or Medieval Trials-of-Arms.  It kind of reminds me of the fantasy equivalent of Bear Baiting.</p>
<p>On that note, I don&#8217;t know what standing I have to complain about such practices considering my career as an adventurer has involved killing hundreds, if not thousands, of Yeti.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamarind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tamarind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The whole Argent Coliseum set up is horribly messed up - I don&#039;t know what Blizzard were thinking.  There&#039;s nothing even remotely heroic in killing animals for sport, and I would argue that feeling like the hero - albeit in an occasionally morally ambiguous way - is kind of a major part of the deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole Argent Coliseum set up is horribly messed up &#8211; I don&#8217;t know what Blizzard were thinking.  There&#8217;s nothing even remotely heroic in killing animals for sport, and I would argue that feeling like the hero &#8211; albeit in an occasionally morally ambiguous way &#8211; is kind of a major part of the deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiryn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kiryn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is going on with that screenshot? He does have two horns, doesn&#039;t he? Where&#039;d the other one go? That&#039;s a poorly chosen pose for such a beast. Unless they buried one of his horns in solid ice as a way to hold him down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is going on with that screenshot? He does have two horns, doesn&#8217;t he? Where&#8217;d the other one go? That&#8217;s a poorly chosen pose for such a beast. Unless they buried one of his horns in solid ice as a way to hold him down.</p>
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		<title>By: evizaer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[evizaer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t it be nice if we were playing role-playing games and not Hotbar DDR: Azeroth Edition?

I find it intolerable enough how droll MMOs tend to be, but it&#039;s a shame that these games have the audacity to claim that anyone is playing a role other than &quot;follow quest-helper, repetitively complete raid content, unsub&quot;. It frustrates me how insubstantial your accomplishments are &lt;i&gt;even in the context of the very game world where they should be important&lt;/i&gt;!

(I&#039;m feeling a bit bitter--maybe I shouldn&#039;t comment late at night.:) )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if we were playing role-playing games and not Hotbar DDR: Azeroth Edition?</p>
<p>I find it intolerable enough how droll MMOs tend to be, but it&#8217;s a shame that these games have the audacity to claim that anyone is playing a role other than &#8220;follow quest-helper, repetitively complete raid content, unsub&#8221;. It frustrates me how insubstantial your accomplishments are <i>even in the context of the very game world where they should be important</i>!</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m feeling a bit bitter&#8211;maybe I shouldn&#8217;t comment late at night.:) )</p>
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		<title>By: Longasc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Longasc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has &quot;raiding&quot; become to WoW players what wargames in the Circus Maximus were to the Romans? :P

I am still of the firm believe that raiding never was intended to become &quot;the endgame&quot;, but rather emerged of what was the devs throwing a bone to gnaw on to an audience that managed to level through all content way way way too early before new content could be produced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has &#8220;raiding&#8221; become to WoW players what wargames in the Circus Maximus were to the Romans? <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am still of the firm believe that raiding never was intended to become &#8220;the endgame&#8221;, but rather emerged of what was the devs throwing a bone to gnaw on to an audience that managed to level through all content way way way too early before new content could be produced.</p>
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