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		<title>By: ZombiePirateXXX</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-thrill-of-the-last-boss/#comment-3206</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ZombiePirateXXX]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember WAYYYYYYYY back when I was raiding Kara, I&#039;d missed a couple of first attempts at the second gear check boss (big arcane sentinal guy, I forget his name). The guild had been having problems with him for a couple weeks and it was late, we&#039;d downed our scheduled bosses but thought we might as well just give it a try and lo, he went down with a minimum of effort...was bizarre to see that we&#039;d had problems and then all of a sudden, bang, killed on first try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember WAYYYYYYYY back when I was raiding Kara, I&#8217;d missed a couple of first attempts at the second gear check boss (big arcane sentinal guy, I forget his name). The guild had been having problems with him for a couple weeks and it was late, we&#8217;d downed our scheduled bosses but thought we might as well just give it a try and lo, he went down with a minimum of effort&#8230;was bizarre to see that we&#8217;d had problems and then all of a sudden, bang, killed on first try.</p>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-thrill-of-the-last-boss/#comment-3199</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grats, sounds like a great evening!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grats, sounds like a great evening!</p>
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		<title>By: wiqd</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-thrill-of-the-last-boss/#comment-3198</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think, if it&#039;s possible, The Argent Tournament made Ulduar more fun for me :/ Bring on Mimiron hard mode any day over any of the Coliseum bosses for me. I recently got my drake from 25 man Ulduar and I was much more happy about that than downing Anub on Heroic 25. Bleh. But yes, bring on ICC before I lose my patience with WoW forever. 

I definitely won&#039;t be playing Cataclysm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, if it&#8217;s possible, The Argent Tournament made Ulduar more fun for me :/ Bring on Mimiron hard mode any day over any of the Coliseum bosses for me. I recently got my drake from 25 man Ulduar and I was much more happy about that than downing Anub on Heroic 25. Bleh. But yes, bring on ICC before I lose my patience with WoW forever. </p>
<p>I definitely won&#8217;t be playing Cataclysm.</p>
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		<title>By: *vlad*</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As usual, Blizzard made the Normal too easy (only the pvp round gives any trouble), and the Hard version is very hard in the sense that you need a LOT of dps to do Northrend Beasts.

The upshot of this is that probably 90% of raids will have to go back to Ulduar, which is no bad thing, but it does make ToC ssomething of a distraction we didn&#039;t really need tbh.

As for Koralon, give me a break - yet another shortcut to easy loot, and I don&#039;t understand why Blizzard want to sabotage Ulduar yet further with this boss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, Blizzard made the Normal too easy (only the pvp round gives any trouble), and the Hard version is very hard in the sense that you need a LOT of dps to do Northrend Beasts.</p>
<p>The upshot of this is that probably 90% of raids will have to go back to Ulduar, which is no bad thing, but it does make ToC ssomething of a distraction we didn&#8217;t really need tbh.</p>
<p>As for Koralon, give me a break &#8211; yet another shortcut to easy loot, and I don&#8217;t understand why Blizzard want to sabotage Ulduar yet further with this boss.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you. I think a lot of people labelled it as a filler patch, and I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve seen much to really change my mind about that. Anub&#039;Arak is a cool fight, but it&#039;s the first one in there that I found interesting. And the whole place is too easy - I&#039;m still thrilled we cleared it but we&#039;re a laid back group who raid 6 hours a week. Can&#039;t imagine how bored the hardcore guys will get. And the loot is so good that you have to do it really.

I also agree with you about the hard modes. I&#039;m sure I should be excited at the prospect of new challenges but ... dialling up health and damage makes the fight harder, but it doesn&#039;t make it more fun. 

I&#039;m mostly still in because I like the people and because I want to be geared for tanking Icecrown. That isn&#039;t entirely enough to justify the sub.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. I think a lot of people labelled it as a filler patch, and I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve seen much to really change my mind about that. Anub&#8217;Arak is a cool fight, but it&#8217;s the first one in there that I found interesting. And the whole place is too easy &#8211; I&#8217;m still thrilled we cleared it but we&#8217;re a laid back group who raid 6 hours a week. Can&#8217;t imagine how bored the hardcore guys will get. And the loot is so good that you have to do it really.</p>
<p>I also agree with you about the hard modes. I&#8217;m sure I should be excited at the prospect of new challenges but &#8230; dialling up health and damage makes the fight harder, but it doesn&#8217;t make it more fun. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m mostly still in because I like the people and because I want to be geared for tanking Icecrown. That isn&#8217;t entirely enough to justify the sub.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. And that sounds frustrating. It&#039;s annoying to be wiping on a boss you know that  you can kill.

I do think the Coliseum isn&#039;t as challenging as I&#039;d hoped, though. I know hard modes are supposed to be really tough but I&#039;m not really enthusiastic about facing them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. And that sounds frustrating. It&#8217;s annoying to be wiping on a boss you know that  you can kill.</p>
<p>I do think the Coliseum isn&#8217;t as challenging as I&#8217;d hoped, though. I know hard modes are supposed to be really tough but I&#8217;m not really enthusiastic about facing them.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think our paladins are more likely to want to show us their haircare products than the light and salvation :)

It is getting kind of silly with the recycled bosses though. I mean, in this case since Anub works for a powerful necromancer you can kind of see it. But Onyxia and Nefarian?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think our paladins are more likely to want to show us their haircare products than the light and salvation <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It is getting kind of silly with the recycled bosses though. I mean, in this case since Anub works for a powerful necromancer you can kind of see it. But Onyxia and Nefarian?</p>
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		<title>By: Impadin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Impadin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So nicely put about why we raid. I got all goosespoon&#039;s.

But yeah, ToC25 normal is nice but a tad to easy for my taste as well. Heroic is more fun. 25 man is very hard. But we have made good progress in 10 man HC, I like that tuning alot. Onlu Anub to go there for us. 
But bring on IIC sooner, rather than later. Toc is very much like a filler raid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So nicely put about why we raid. I got all goosespoon&#8217;s.</p>
<p>But yeah, ToC25 normal is nice but a tad to easy for my taste as well. Heroic is more fun. 25 man is very hard. But we have made good progress in 10 man HC, I like that tuning alot. Onlu Anub to go there for us.<br />
But bring on IIC sooner, rather than later. Toc is very much like a filler raid.</p>
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		<title>By: wiqd</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The crappy (or good depending on how you look at it) is that the heroic mode is SO much harder than the regular mode that it turns people off pretty quick. 

We clear the regular mode the first day it was available and subsequently tried the heroic version. We spent like 3 days on the FIRST BOSS. It was nuts. Most of it was due to people being too lax from the ease of the regular, but man ... Then it gets easy for the next 2 (even faction champs weren&#039;t that hard), then the Twins are pretty tough and Anub SUCKS. 

So yea, it&#039;s like Blizz just turned up everything in the hopes it would fill peoples&#039; time til ICC, but meh. I&#039;m not a fan of that. I&#039;m really beginning to dislike &quot;hard modes&quot; simply being more health and more damage. Change the fight around! Put extra events in them or something. Don&#039;t just make them hit harder and have more HP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crappy (or good depending on how you look at it) is that the heroic mode is SO much harder than the regular mode that it turns people off pretty quick. </p>
<p>We clear the regular mode the first day it was available and subsequently tried the heroic version. We spent like 3 days on the FIRST BOSS. It was nuts. Most of it was due to people being too lax from the ease of the regular, but man &#8230; Then it gets easy for the next 2 (even faction champs weren&#8217;t that hard), then the Twins are pretty tough and Anub SUCKS. </p>
<p>So yea, it&#8217;s like Blizz just turned up everything in the hopes it would fill peoples&#8217; time til ICC, but meh. I&#8217;m not a fan of that. I&#8217;m really beginning to dislike &#8220;hard modes&#8221; simply being more health and more damage. Change the fight around! Put extra events in them or something. Don&#8217;t just make them hit harder and have more HP.</p>
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		<title>By: Duht</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grats on your anub kill!

We downed that big dead bug the first week he was out.  Took us four of five tries to get tanking and dps sorted properly and get get all the moving parts identified and a plan to mitigate them.  Even so, he was dead in relatively short order after we engaged him.

I left that week thinking that ToC25 regular was just a tad too easy.  

Somehow between now and then, the raid has collectively blown the whole fight out their butts.  Anub hasn&#039;t died since.  Most attempts haven&#039;t even been close.  Many enrages before phase 3, add tank deaths for no good reason.

We&#039;re the same way on Yogg, it&#039;s the last boss psychout.  It makes me want to nerdrage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grats on your anub kill!</p>
<p>We downed that big dead bug the first week he was out.  Took us four of five tries to get tanking and dps sorted properly and get get all the moving parts identified and a plan to mitigate them.  Even so, he was dead in relatively short order after we engaged him.</p>
<p>I left that week thinking that ToC25 regular was just a tad too easy.  </p>
<p>Somehow between now and then, the raid has collectively blown the whole fight out their butts.  Anub hasn&#8217;t died since.  Most attempts haven&#8217;t even been close.  Many enrages before phase 3, add tank deaths for no good reason.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re the same way on Yogg, it&#8217;s the last boss psychout.  It makes me want to nerdrage.</p>
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