Comments on: Thought of the Day: Boobs in Games and Modern Art

By: Electric Blankets

Electric Blankets — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:04:13 +0000

you just have to get used to modern art to appreciate the beauty of it `:*

By: A holiday, a holiday, the first one of the year! Best of 2009. « Welcome to Spinksville!

Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:07:47 +0000

[...] We also had a membership to the Tate Modern last year, which spawned a couple of posts on Games as Art, and Boobs in Games and Modern Art [...]

By: Keeping abreast of the news. « MMO misanthrope

Keeping abreast of the news. « MMO misanthrope — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:56:27 +0000

[...] On Massively, the release of a teaser video was obscured by a strong debate about sexualization, causing columnist Seraphina Brennan to respond with a defense of boobs in games. Spinks of Welcome to Spinksville also had her own thoughts on the matter. [...]

By: Stabs

Stabs — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:26:59 +0000

Once again Ernest leaves me cheering and waving my arms.

By: Longasc

Longasc — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:36:55 +0000

I think this is something Guild Wars did right. It has its own style, a successful blend of western themes and manga elements.

So yeah, female elementalist have huge knockers, but they have not extremely overdone it, as it seems to be the norm otherwise.

IIRC Katy Hargrove designed the Elementalist armors with the most cleavage, maybe this is the reason why we have smexy armors that are not too much.

By: Tesh

Tesh — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:37:59 +0000

http://www.designersnotebook.com/Columns/029_Bad_Game_Designer_2/029_bad_game_designer_2.htm#JUVENILIA

Ernest Adams sums it up pretty well. I also remember an “Anatomy for artists” class I took in college. The instructor basically said “Yes, women have breasts, get over it and draw what you see, not what you think you see (or want to see)”.

Games are basically escapist fantasy… but all too many of them are fantasies that I find puerile and idiotic. That’s part of the territory, especially in uch a male dominated field (where most managed to grow old without growing up), but it still bothers me that such idiocy is the norm rather than the exception.

The market as a whole is stuck in its teen years, desperately wanting to be mature, but mistaking the ESRB’s definition of the word for the real thing.

By: Veneretio

Veneretio — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:02:43 +0000

It’s a really complex issue. I’d love to chalk it up to a male dominated work force, but then you don’t have to sift through deviant art or similar places long before you realize that female artists are just as guilty as males of doing it.

Ultimately, I think it’s a cop out. Everyone wants attention. Everyone wants people to love their work and this is an easy way of doing it. Yes, men may not be the overwhelming majority. They may not even be the majority for some games, but they are the vocal majority when it comes to an attractive female.

It’s boob’s ability to not only get males to notice something but also get them to talk about it that is so attractive about them from a designer/sales standpoint.

And unfortunately by females taking issue with it, it really just draws more attention to it. So, there’s really no win solution unless you can somehow get males stop caring about breasts. (good luck)

By: Elnia

Elnia — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:56:44 +0000

Of course you have the power to complain if you think they have gone to far. That’s healthy. What I worry about is that you feel the need to apologize to your friends for something that does not reflect you. If someone comments, just simply remark that those characterizations aren’t present in the type of games you play. Instead of looking at it as apologizing look at it as educating.

By: spinks

spinks — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:20:39 +0000

I mostly have issues with the notion that I should shut up and not complain when I see something that I don’t like. Why on earth would I do that if I think they’ve gone too far?

Also I’d like to be able to discuss my hobbies with my friends without having to apologise for them. I don’t really want to see gaming go the way furrydom has (I’m not a furry but I think it’s a shame that people assume everyone who likes cartoon animals must also be into kinky sex.)

By: Stabs

Stabs — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:54:30 +0000

The look of Blade and Soul women (which is what prompted Sera’s article) is of creatures with little girl faces, schoolgirl style clothing (eg the white panties) and absurd torpedo shaped breasts.

Even setting aside the element of pedophilia for some of us men they aren’t attractive or sexy, they are horrible caricatures of features a woman with a great body would have.