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	<title>Comments on: Thought of the Day: Why random dungeons won&#8217;t kill guilds</title>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/thought-of-the-day-why-random-dungeons-wont-kill-guilds/#comment-4865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m very curious to see how it plays out myself. At the moment, playing WoW feels like being on a permanent sugar rush - wonder if people will start burning out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very curious to see how it plays out myself. At the moment, playing WoW feels like being on a permanent sugar rush &#8211; wonder if people will start burning out.</p>
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		<title>By: weenie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[weenie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of my randoms are done with guild members, or with the odd pug. Far more enjoyable, you know what you&#039;re getting, no &#039;go go gos&#039;, no people waiting for everyone else to select &#039;disenchant&#039; on the epic item first and then selecting &#039;need&#039; and then leaving the party immediately...
Think our guild is stronger than ever since the patch, new 80s soon in T9 gear for starters!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of my randoms are done with guild members, or with the odd pug. Far more enjoyable, you know what you&#8217;re getting, no &#8216;go go gos&#8217;, no people waiting for everyone else to select &#8216;disenchant&#8217; on the epic item first and then selecting &#8216;need&#8217; and then leaving the party immediately&#8230;<br />
Think our guild is stronger than ever since the patch, new 80s soon in T9 gear for starters!</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfshead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfshead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do like the new LFG feature in WoW but I&#039;m starting to get concerned that it may be having a negative effect on guilds. Trying to get a guild group for a heroic has become harder now that there are less guildies in the available pool for a guild group.

In another month it will be interesting to see how the ramifications of the LFG feature pan out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like the new LFG feature in WoW but I&#8217;m starting to get concerned that it may be having a negative effect on guilds. Trying to get a guild group for a heroic has become harder now that there are less guildies in the available pool for a guild group.</p>
<p>In another month it will be interesting to see how the ramifications of the LFG feature pan out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kuroburu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kuroburu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t argue with you here - I thought on the first day that I&#039;d be really excited to queue as a tank and have no downtime. Too many people are wanting to rush through everything - and I certainly have no problem moving quickly...but when a DPS warrior wants to pull everything because he was 1 step ahead of me to the next pack of mobs I start getting annoyed.

We&#039;ve done groups with 2-4 guildies and things are much easier to deal with. At least when a guild member pulls something ahead of the tank it doesn&#039;t bother me, since they&#039;re smart enough to know if they need to LoS a group, or they&#039;re just being helpful by dragging a pat back into the group we&#039;re currently AOEing down to save a few seconds.

I think if anything having access to the dungeon system should make it easier on guilds, as people don&#039;t feel that they need to find four guild members to go do something with them all the time. This should help ease frustrating some players may have with their guild not being &quot;helpful&quot; because they won&#039;t drop everything to run them through a heroic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t argue with you here &#8211; I thought on the first day that I&#8217;d be really excited to queue as a tank and have no downtime. Too many people are wanting to rush through everything &#8211; and I certainly have no problem moving quickly&#8230;but when a DPS warrior wants to pull everything because he was 1 step ahead of me to the next pack of mobs I start getting annoyed.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve done groups with 2-4 guildies and things are much easier to deal with. At least when a guild member pulls something ahead of the tank it doesn&#8217;t bother me, since they&#8217;re smart enough to know if they need to LoS a group, or they&#8217;re just being helpful by dragging a pat back into the group we&#8217;re currently AOEing down to save a few seconds.</p>
<p>I think if anything having access to the dungeon system should make it easier on guilds, as people don&#8217;t feel that they need to find four guild members to go do something with them all the time. This should help ease frustrating some players may have with their guild not being &#8220;helpful&#8221; because they won&#8217;t drop everything to run them through a heroic.</p>
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		<title>By: Bristal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bristal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I raid/run instances only about once a week, formerly only with guildies, who run far more often.  The best thing about the new system is that I can just grab one or two guildies and not have to go through the &quot;what instance do you want to run?&quot; conversation that invariably ends with the same damn one or two.  I was always hesitant to suggest one i hadn&#039;t done because likely nobody would be familiar with it, or someone hated it.

No more &quot;oh i hate that one, i ran it 30 times in a row last year trying to get gear&quot;, or &quot;let&#039;s just run VH again cuz it&#039;s close &amp; quick&quot;.

I really like the random teleport to &quot;somewhere&quot;.  i got to run a new one last night.  win win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I raid/run instances only about once a week, formerly only with guildies, who run far more often.  The best thing about the new system is that I can just grab one or two guildies and not have to go through the &#8220;what instance do you want to run?&#8221; conversation that invariably ends with the same damn one or two.  I was always hesitant to suggest one i hadn&#8217;t done because likely nobody would be familiar with it, or someone hated it.</p>
<p>No more &#8220;oh i hate that one, i ran it 30 times in a row last year trying to get gear&#8221;, or &#8220;let&#8217;s just run VH again cuz it&#8217;s close &amp; quick&#8221;.</p>
<p>I really like the random teleport to &#8220;somewhere&#8221;.  i got to run a new one last night.  win win.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a resto druid, I feel the same way, so I always try take at least one guildmate with me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resto druid, I feel the same way, so I always try take at least one guildmate with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Uzi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its also a great way to boost newbie guildies.

Get a decent tank, healer bolt bolt in the newbie (or if its a tank or healer take a uber healer/tank) and then go pound heroics for an afternoon. A few hundred badges later and its alllllllll good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its also a great way to boost newbie guildies.</p>
<p>Get a decent tank, healer bolt bolt in the newbie (or if its a tank or healer take a uber healer/tank) and then go pound heroics for an afternoon. A few hundred badges later and its alllllllll good.</p>
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		<title>By: Thallian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thallian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, &quot;trust&quot; isn&#039;t something you can automate or shortcut. Great post Spinks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, &#8220;trust&#8221; isn&#8217;t something you can automate or shortcut. Great post Spinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Hatch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good idea Spinks, I&#039;m going to try it because I&#039;ve had a lot of very bad pugs lately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea Spinks, I&#8217;m going to try it because I&#8217;ve had a lot of very bad pugs lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Vulpina</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/thought-of-the-day-why-random-dungeons-wont-kill-guilds/#comment-4849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vulpina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is already happening in my Battlegroup, the only tanks I seem to get paired with now seem to be freshly dinged 80s. Good news is most of them seemed to be just fine so far. 

My level 67 warlock is having much more trouble, for some reason the random only ever selects Crypts and DK tanks named Deathburger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is already happening in my Battlegroup, the only tanks I seem to get paired with now seem to be freshly dinged 80s. Good news is most of them seemed to be just fine so far. </p>
<p>My level 67 warlock is having much more trouble, for some reason the random only ever selects Crypts and DK tanks named Deathburger.</p>
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