Comments on: The growing rift in WoW between hybrids and non-hybrids http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/ MMOs and game design Wed, 22 May 2013 22:20:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: spinks http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-5070 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:40:26 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-5070 Interesting.

It’s tricky to get much data out of the census because (IIRC) it doesn’t differentiate between active characters and ones that have been abandoned. Once you get to 31-40 though, paladins have caught up with hunters (maybe a lot of those hunters are battleground alts?).

]]> By: fauxgt4 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-5068 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:19:01 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-5068 For a little data behind claims:
Current breakdown of class distribution, at 80
*Pures:*
Mage: 9% (–1%)
Rogues: 7% (-3%)
Locks: 8% (-2%)
Hunters: 10% (0%)
*Hybrids*
DK: 14% (+4%)
Druid: 10% (0%)
Pally: 13% (+3%)
Shammy: 9% (-1%)
Priest: 9% (-1%)
Warriors: 10% (0%)

So, at 80, only one pure class is “even” and the others are below “even”.

Dk’s are highest (no surprise… they start at 55 with sweet gear)

Looking at “new” toons (from 10-15) we see a different trend:
*Pures:*
Mage and Rogues right on (0%)
Locks a pinch low (-1%)
Hunters highest at 16% (+5%)
*Hybrids*
Warriors druids and pallies a bit high (+1%)
Priest and shammies really low (-3%)

So at least for *new* (level 10-15) toons, people seem to favor hunter most (???) and priests and shammies are hated, and everyone else is close to equal.

Not sure why people seem to be making new pures… I agree there seems to be little reason for a pure class (anyone want some of my mages gobs and gobs of spare badges?) when wait times are longer, you get less gear, and your dps is the exact same as the hybrids when they dps is beyond me.

Pvp can be the only explanation I can think of. Thats why I made a rogue.

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census/

]]> By: *vlad* http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-5021 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:09:49 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-5021 Take a look at your guild, and you probably will see that the majority of people are playing hybrids (Paladins, Druids, Shamen), or classes that can dps/heal or dps/tank (Priests, DKs).

Why even bother with a pure dps class anymore, unless raiding is your only interest.

I would love to see dps classes given an alternative healing/tanking spec in Cataclysm; Warlocks as demon tanks, Mages with a healing spec – why not?.

]]> By: Kring http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-5014 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:53:16 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-5014 Being kicked from a PuG is not the end of the world. You probably find a new group faster than what it would take you to sit through a bad pug.

Wait time on my server is 15 minutes. A fast instance takes 10-20 minutes. It’s faster to leave a slow group in POS and just try again 15 minutes later. :-)

And invite times for heal go up since they introduced the tool. Only tanks get real instant invites. And healers and dd are replaced instantly by the tool if they leave/get kicked.

]]> By: spinks http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-5011 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:51:10 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-5011 Actually, the tank can’t really kick people (alas). It needs a vote.

]]> By: ZachPruckowski http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-5003 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:57:28 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-5003 Have you seen the Frost Emblem prices on Tier gear and Badge gear? It’ll be some time before people don’t need EoF for their main spec, and even longer before they stop needing it for their off-spec (if any).

]]> By: Descretoria http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-4998 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:14:39 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-4998 It’s silly to play a class you don’t enjoy just to keep your options open. The whole, “There’s a glut of XYZ and too few ABC” only makes sense in the pug scene. If you’re a good player, look for a good guild, and I guarantee someone has a slot for what you enjoy playing.

I don’t have Blizzard’s data laying around, but I’d bet that paladins and druids aren’t wildly above everyone else just because they’re hybrids.

]]> By: Kring http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-4997 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:41:54 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-4997 I do the daily heroic on my warlock and shaman every day. The warlock is my main.

I have to wait about 11 minutes on my warlock when I queue alone. And I normally enjoy the run.

I run 10 man raids with my shaman as enhancement. I queue the shaman as heal/DD and get into a heroic within minutes as heal. I have selfbuffed something like 2.5k +heal which is not great but way to much for all heroics. I hate these runs because they are boring. I have nothing to do besides putting a riptide on the 40k hp tank every 30 seconds. That is so boring. I would prefer to play mine sweeper or solitair if they would give me two EoF.

From time to time I get a mad tank who pulls everything. I love them because I get something to heal. Sometimes I even have to use an instant.

I think the grass for hybrids only looks greener on their side.

]]> By: Kring http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-4996 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:35:07 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-4996 Just drop the stupid raids and make a real progression based on epic 5 mans. That would be so awesome.

Something like LBRS (size and look and feel) which you clear in multiple days with a 1 week heroic ID.

]]> By: Kring http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-growing-rift-in-wow-between-hybrids-and-non-hybrids/#comment-4995 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:32:53 +0000 http://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=2989#comment-4995 Demo locks already have a ton of armor and a spot in demon form. :-)

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