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	<title>Comments on: How should new players learn the ropes?</title>
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		<title>By: Increased Max Players &#124; Kill Ten Rats</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/how-should-new-players-learn-the-ropes/#comment-5795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Increased Max Players &#124; Kill Ten Rats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to 3 hours). I found this very helpful for learning the game, as I did not need to simultaneously learn a couple dozen maps (including stages), nine classes, alternate weapons, etc. One map, enough people for my beginning [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to 3 hours). I found this very helpful for learning the game, as I did not need to simultaneously learn a couple dozen maps (including stages), nine classes, alternate weapons, etc. One map, enough people for my beginning [...]</p>
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		<title>By: abruzzi</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/how-should-new-players-learn-the-ropes/#comment-5533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[abruzzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have seen all of the fights now I am relearning them from a new point of view. YEA!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen all of the fights now I am relearning them from a new point of view. YEA!</p>
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		<title>By: /AFK &#8211; Let&#8217;s All Play Whatever Stargrace Is Playing Edition &#171; Bio Break</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/how-should-new-players-learn-the-ropes/#comment-5528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[/AFK &#8211; Let&#8217;s All Play Whatever Stargrace Is Playing Edition &#171; Bio Break]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Spinksville wonders how we might better teach newbies the ropes [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Spinksville wonders how we might better teach newbies the ropes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rurjaos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rurjaos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mentoring would be fine:
Set lvl and ilvl of the mentor  to the average lvl /ilvl of the group and hand out boa-exp-tokens after the run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mentoring would be fine:<br />
Set lvl and ilvl of the mentor  to the average lvl /ilvl of the group and hand out boa-exp-tokens after the run.</p>
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		<title>By: Rurjaos</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/how-should-new-players-learn-the-ropes/#comment-5516</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rurjaos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Horrible and stacking cast/attackspeed-debuffs when ignoring tactics could solve the problem.
1%-2%-4%-...256%...1024%, applied per second.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horrible and stacking cast/attackspeed-debuffs when ignoring tactics could solve the problem.<br />
1%-2%-4%-&#8230;256%&#8230;1024%, applied per second.</p>
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		<title>By: eLearning &#171; new traditionalists</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/how-should-new-players-learn-the-ropes/#comment-5515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eLearning &#171; new traditionalists]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] asks how WoW (and others MMOs) could be improved to help new players learn the ropes &#8211; especially level 80&#8217;s who are expected to know ~48 bosses in 16 dungeons the moment [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] asks how WoW (and others MMOs) could be improved to help new players learn the ropes &#8211; especially level 80&#8217;s who are expected to know ~48 bosses in 16 dungeons the moment [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/how-should-new-players-learn-the-ropes/#comment-5513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if you do that, there are quite a few instances that you probably won&#039;t see before 80.

Halls of Lightning, Halls of Stone, Utgarde Pinnacle, and Gundrak are set at about level 79-80. Then add in Trial of the Champion and the three new Icecrown 5-mans. Plus you likely won&#039;t have seen all the bosses in Violet Hold by then (admittedly they are easy but some of them have tactics.)

So even if you have been making good use of the dungeon finder as you level (and I totally agree that it&#039;s a good idea!!) there&#039;s still a wodge of content thrown at you at 80.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you do that, there are quite a few instances that you probably won&#8217;t see before 80.</p>
<p>Halls of Lightning, Halls of Stone, Utgarde Pinnacle, and Gundrak are set at about level 79-80. Then add in Trial of the Champion and the three new Icecrown 5-mans. Plus you likely won&#8217;t have seen all the bosses in Violet Hold by then (admittedly they are easy but some of them have tactics.)</p>
<p>So even if you have been making good use of the dungeon finder as you level (and I totally agree that it&#8217;s a good idea!!) there&#8217;s still a wodge of content thrown at you at 80.</p>
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		<title>By: Bane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some ideas:

* Instant replay on boss fights, so you can analyse what happened
* Don&#039;t use Random LFD until you&#039;ve queued and learnt each dungeon
* Run instances while you level so you&#039;re familiar for Heroics
* In game boss mods
* Definitely like the idea of some kind of upgrade planner - where to go next
* Some kind of reward for mentoring - not sure how that would work]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some ideas:</p>
<p>* Instant replay on boss fights, so you can analyse what happened<br />
* Don&#8217;t use Random LFD until you&#8217;ve queued and learnt each dungeon<br />
* Run instances while you level so you&#8217;re familiar for Heroics<br />
* In game boss mods<br />
* Definitely like the idea of some kind of upgrade planner &#8211; where to go next<br />
* Some kind of reward for mentoring &#8211; not sure how that would work</p>
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		<title>By: Uzi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Noth was Raid Boss of the week. Having missed Spinks run (Grr to login issues) we had a crack at him later that night.

58 seconds. With some alts along. Tactics? Bloodlust and NUKE!

This is not a a good thing for a lovely raid instance....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noth was Raid Boss of the week. Having missed Spinks run (Grr to login issues) we had a crack at him later that night.</p>
<p>58 seconds. With some alts along. Tactics? Bloodlust and NUKE!</p>
<p>This is not a a good thing for a lovely raid instance&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tulsplat</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/how-should-new-players-learn-the-ropes/#comment-5496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tulsplat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Learning 48 bosses at once when you ding 80

Run the dungeons as you level?  Hit Nexus/UK as soon as you hit 70ish and get the quests...and so on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Learning 48 bosses at once when you ding 80</p>
<p>Run the dungeons as you level?  Hit Nexus/UK as soon as you hit 70ish and get the quests&#8230;and so on.</p>
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