Comments on: 10 factors that make a fun tanking fight

By: lujanera

lujanera — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:30:46 +0000

This post does a great job of explaining what is fun about tanking. I still think tanking the non-Steelbreaker portion of Iron Council in Ulduar 10 is my favorite in the game. Warrior tanks have a lot of fun abilities to make themselves useful in that fight.

By: Icecrown Citadel: Is tanking getting dull? « Welcome to Spinksville!

Icecrown Citadel: Is tanking getting dull? « Welcome to Spinksville! — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:02:36 +0000

[...] } So, yesterday I was pondering what makes the tanking side of a raid encounter fun for me. And the reason was that I spotted this [...]

By: Guthammer

Guthammer — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:44:49 +0000

For most of my time raiding KZ the prince was an even worse fight that what you have described because we used one of the spots where you could have an inferno to the left and the right and still have (just enough) room for the tank to stand without getting toasted.

There was literally nothing for me to do on the prince other than pound my threat rotation, while staring at nothing but boss crotch.

By: KharneUK

KharneUK — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:31:48 +0000

Good list, Malygos kiting is lots of fun when you nail the skill, I also seem to enjoy bosses that hit like level appropriate Prince (kara) and the panther boss in ZA, fast and hard, so you get to use cooldowns whenever your healers struggle for one reason or another (movement/silence etc).

By: Uzi

Uzi — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:19:13 +0000

Yar. We like fights where we have to do something different. Hmmm. Well actualy I like it as DPS. Notsomuch as a healer. The trouble with Gimmick fights as a healer is that if you screw up then normall tank death + raid wipe or just good old fashioned raidwipe tends to occur. However that said I rather enjoy going Tesla and using un-glyphed Thunderstorm, earthbind and in last resort Nitro Boots to deal with Blood beasts on Saurfang for example.
As is so often the case:- Varieity is the Spice. If every fight was Patchwerk we’d be cancelling our subs but now and then its nice to see a ‘vanilla’ tank and spank/dps check.

By: spinks

spinks — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 06:41:21 +0000

You realise that if that’s what makes the fights fun for you, they can only go downhill now that they need to be normalised around 4 different tanks? (As honors code says, below.)

This is why I’d be happy for more of our abilities to be spread around. It would make for more involving fights later on.

By: spinks

spinks — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:57:11 +0000

Agreed! It was a pretty rubbish fight for melee too iirc. If you could have just seen where you were going to help plan out how to kite him, it would have been so much less annoying.

By: spinks

spinks — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:56:06 +0000

You’re right. But that’s not necessarily a deal breaker — other classes can help to break fear, can do interrupts, can help with other external buffs and abilities. All the tanks are reasonably mobile (deathgrip, hand of freedom, charge, etc) and the least mobile tanks have better ranged taunt/damage abilities. Anyone could be given a special one-fight-only ability like the rocket packs for the gunship battle.

This wasn’t really intended as a warrior specific list. Sure, it’s nice when a fight feels as though it’s tailor made for your class, but as you say, they can’t and they mustn’t do that any more.

I also expect they’ll be looking at ways to better spread abilities like interrupts among all the tanks next expansion. But it doesn’t have to be inevitable that raid tanking gets more boring.

By: Honorshammer

Honorshammer — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:13:18 +0000

One of the challenges they have is designing a fight that can be tanked by all four tank classes. It was easier when they had only one toolkit to worry about (the Warrior’s). Certain tanks simply lack the tools to handle Fear Breaks, high movement, interrupts, etc. The Devs have a challenge of making 4 diverse classes and not just 4 different sets of art for the same abilities (although we are perilously close to that already).

By: Kudos

Kudos — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:24:51 +0000

I think #8 and 10 are pretty much the same thing, really, if it starts to go pear shaped and you blow cool downs and save the wipe, you are strutting your stuff, and because everyone sees it, you get bonus points

But ya, I agree with all of the points, nothing is worse than a tank and spank fight. I either try to get set on add duty when the boss just requires the tank to hold him in one spot or kite him around anyways and piss off the melee classes.