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	<title>Comments on: It came from the PUG: Move it, slackers!</title>
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		<title>By: *vlad*</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/it-came-from-the-pug-move-it-slackers/#comment-5952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[*vlad*]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why are people so worried about what dps/rotation/gear choice everyone else has in a random pug? Unless they are terrible players I really am not interested.

 These days the game is so easy, and yet every action is criticised, insults fly at the drop of a hat, and this game (yes a game, something we do to enjoy ourselves) is full of whiny people bitching at others for not doing things exactly the way they think they should.
No one needs to be using Recount in a heroic, ffs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people so worried about what dps/rotation/gear choice everyone else has in a random pug? Unless they are terrible players I really am not interested.</p>
<p> These days the game is so easy, and yet every action is criticised, insults fly at the drop of a hat, and this game (yes a game, something we do to enjoy ourselves) is full of whiny people bitching at others for not doing things exactly the way they think they should.<br />
No one needs to be using Recount in a heroic, ffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Maker</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/it-came-from-the-pug-move-it-slackers/#comment-5948</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason why you don&#039;t see any other ret pallies is because the system excludes other ret pallies from your groups unless you queue with another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why you don&#8217;t see any other ret pallies is because the system excludes other ret pallies from your groups unless you queue with another.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/it-came-from-the-pug-move-it-slackers/#comment-5924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hee. Don&#039;t worry, I have never actually ripped threat off a tank with it. You can turn off the bladestorm proc instantly by switching auras, which is not on the GCD. 

It does break CC, but I havent&#039; seen anyone using that yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hee. Don&#8217;t worry, I have never actually ripped threat off a tank with it. You can turn off the bladestorm proc instantly by switching auras, which is not on the GCD. </p>
<p>It does break CC, but I havent&#8217; seen anyone using that yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jal</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/it-came-from-the-pug-move-it-slackers/#comment-5923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first comment on WoWHead re:Ravager plays right into this conversation.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=7717#comments

&quot;Lord, oh, Lord I hate this axe...

If you are solo&#039;ing feel free to use it, but please do NOT use it in instances!

1) The damn proc will break any crowd control near you....

2) Don&#039;t use this thing unless you have a really good tank or a lot of armor. ... I just ran ZF with a paladin who used this and I wanted to kill her because when the thing proc&#039;d then she couldn&#039;t heal herself and when everything started pounding on her and her life dropped like a rock I had to burn all my mana keeping her alive.

Truly, please don&#039;t use this in instances. =)&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first comment on WoWHead re:Ravager plays right into this conversation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=7717#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?item=7717#comments</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Lord, oh, Lord I hate this axe&#8230;</p>
<p>If you are solo&#8217;ing feel free to use it, but please do NOT use it in instances!</p>
<p>1) The damn proc will break any crowd control near you&#8230;.</p>
<p>2) Don&#8217;t use this thing unless you have a really good tank or a lot of armor. &#8230; I just ran ZF with a paladin who used this and I wanted to kill her because when the thing proc&#8217;d then she couldn&#8217;t heal herself and when everything started pounding on her and her life dropped like a rock I had to burn all my mana keeping her alive.</p>
<p>Truly, please don&#8217;t use this in instances. =)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SlikRX/Balthazario</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/it-came-from-the-pug-move-it-slackers/#comment-5911</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SlikRX/Balthazario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woops, lost a thought there: &quot;I have never&quot;...

been yelled at for being low DPS. I&#039;ve been yelled at ONCE for getting too much aggro. Waiting for the tank a bit too long is my thing though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops, lost a thought there: &#8220;I have never&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>been yelled at for being low DPS. I&#8217;ve been yelled at ONCE for getting too much aggro. Waiting for the tank a bit too long is my thing though.</p>
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		<title>By: SlikRX/Balthazario</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/it-came-from-the-pug-move-it-slackers/#comment-5910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SlikRX/Balthazario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing about Paladin DPS is that raid buffs can vary so much from group to group, everything else being equal, and you can gain or lose 30% of yor DPS just because of that. I have never

I usually top the DPS meters in my LFG PuGs,  If there&#039;s a well geared tank, he/she may have better damage for the occasional fight, but that&#039;s kinda rare, and that&#039;s with me waiting for a solid 5 seconds to let the tank get aggro.

I occasionally catch crap for it (&quot;why you standing there?&quot;), but I&#039;m sick to death of &quot;being taught a lesson&quot; by some healers when I get aggro or take damage. (Sorry, but as a Retpal, standing toe-to-toe is required, and I will occasionally get a little aggro and take *some* damage. It doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m not paying attention, it probably means the tank changed targets)

I guess playing a Retpal has one advantage: I never see another one in my random PuGs. I get the occasional Tankadin, almost never get a Healadin, but I&#039;ve NEVER had another Ret.

I guess that&#039;s a good thing lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing about Paladin DPS is that raid buffs can vary so much from group to group, everything else being equal, and you can gain or lose 30% of yor DPS just because of that. I have never</p>
<p>I usually top the DPS meters in my LFG PuGs,  If there&#8217;s a well geared tank, he/she may have better damage for the occasional fight, but that&#8217;s kinda rare, and that&#8217;s with me waiting for a solid 5 seconds to let the tank get aggro.</p>
<p>I occasionally catch crap for it (&#8220;why you standing there?&#8221;), but I&#8217;m sick to death of &#8220;being taught a lesson&#8221; by some healers when I get aggro or take damage. (Sorry, but as a Retpal, standing toe-to-toe is required, and I will occasionally get a little aggro and take *some* damage. It doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m not paying attention, it probably means the tank changed targets)</p>
<p>I guess playing a Retpal has one advantage: I never see another one in my random PuGs. I get the occasional Tankadin, almost never get a Healadin, but I&#8217;ve NEVER had another Ret.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s a good thing lol.</p>
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		<title>By: repgrind</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/it-came-from-the-pug-move-it-slackers/#comment-5906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[repgrind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I LOVE my Ravager. I need to play my paladin alt some more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE my Ravager. I need to play my paladin alt some more.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/it-came-from-the-pug-move-it-slackers/#comment-5905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly, a slacker can choose to pull their finger out and stop slacking when it&#039;s needed! I like slackers, you can bribe them into better performance ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, a slacker can choose to pull their finger out and stop slacking when it&#8217;s needed! I like slackers, you can bribe them into better performance <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roguewind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roguewind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always love when a tank tops the dps meter and calls the dps slackers. If you&#039;re talking trash pulls, the tank should be rocking out more dps because they&#039;re doing hefty aoe damage to keep aggro. Let them look at what happens on a single target boss fight. Some people are born d-bags.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always love when a tank tops the dps meter and calls the dps slackers. If you&#8217;re talking trash pulls, the tank should be rocking out more dps because they&#8217;re doing hefty aoe damage to keep aggro. Let them look at what happens on a single target boss fight. Some people are born d-bags.</p>
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		<title>By: G-Rebel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G-Rebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Isa, by saying you suck/slacked he was putting you down to lift himself up.  It&#039;s a common human behavior.  I always ignore the idiots and jerks, they just want attention because their momma considered breast-feeding bad for her sex life, so they were never close and now they seek attention usually in aggressive ways.  Next time you run into that just ask if he would like his ba-ba or pacifier now or after the run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Isa, by saying you suck/slacked he was putting you down to lift himself up.  It&#8217;s a common human behavior.  I always ignore the idiots and jerks, they just want attention because their momma considered breast-feeding bad for her sex life, so they were never close and now they seek attention usually in aggressive ways.  Next time you run into that just ask if he would like his ba-ba or pacifier now or after the run.</p>
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