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	<title>Comments on: It came from the PUG: When good players go bad!</title>
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		<title>By: When hunters go bad: The problem with non-negotiated instance groups &#171; Welcome to Spinksville!</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-12066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[When hunters go bad: The problem with non-negotiated instance groups &#171; Welcome to Spinksville!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 06:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I actually have no idea why this caused a fuss, except that he’d been so honest about it. Maybe people hold their favourite bloggers up to strange levels of behaviour. And honestly, everyone has those mad moments when random people in an instance drive you to do something daft like pull a load of mobs and then leave them to wipe. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I actually have no idea why this caused a fuss, except that he’d been so honest about it. Maybe people hold their favourite bloggers up to strange levels of behaviour. And honestly, everyone has those mad moments when random people in an instance drive you to do something daft like pull a load of mobs and then leave them to wipe. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-9943</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunk cost, not investment. And if I didn&#039;t have the hour to sit around I wouldn&#039;t be queueing (if I was DPS). You can do plenty of other things while you&#039;re in the queue (dailies, farming, read a book irl).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunk cost, not investment. And if I didn&#8217;t have the hour to sit around I wouldn&#8217;t be queueing (if I was DPS). You can do plenty of other things while you&#8217;re in the queue (dailies, farming, read a book irl).</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-9942</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I try to go faster if the healer is DPSing, and slower if my health is getting really low before I get heals. I trust the healer to call out if they need to drink (unless they are completely oom of course). I pretty much ignore the DPS; if they are oom they can drink and join the fight late, if they start pulling for me I let them tank. Especially if they pull when I am OOR with my rage button on cooldown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to go faster if the healer is DPSing, and slower if my health is getting really low before I get heals. I trust the healer to call out if they need to drink (unless they are completely oom of course). I pretty much ignore the DPS; if they are oom they can drink and join the fight late, if they start pulling for me I let them tank. Especially if they pull when I am OOR with my rage button on cooldown.</p>
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		<title>By: Tchernobog</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-6684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tchernobog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spinks:


Open macro window
Write /cancelaura tricks of the trade (or misdirect)
Put on bar and spam
???? (lol)
Profit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spinks:</p>
<p>Open macro window<br />
Write /cancelaura tricks of the trade (or misdirect)<br />
Put on bar and spam<br />
???? (lol)<br />
Profit.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-6424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The great thing about the /ignore function is that it will ensure that the random dungeon finder never groups you with that person again, just make sure if it is someone on another server to use /ignore name-server]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing about the /ignore function is that it will ensure that the random dungeon finder never groups you with that person again, just make sure if it is someone on another server to use /ignore name-server</p>
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		<title>By: melissa</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-6421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[melissa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t had the pleasure of running into complete jerks just yet doing random dungeons...but I&#039;m sure it will happen. If I /ignore them (and they are on another server) will I ever be put into /lfd with them again?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t had the pleasure of running into complete jerks just yet doing random dungeons&#8230;but I&#8217;m sure it will happen. If I /ignore them (and they are on another server) will I ever be put into /lfd with them again?</p>
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		<title>By: Gutfried</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-6407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gutfried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d dispute your maths there. Most goers aren&#039;t on badge farms, but looking to do their one HC for the 2 frost. Given that they&#039;ve already invested the search time, a slow run may add proportionally less to their relative time spent, but absolutes matter too and an hour or more to do your daily can grate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d dispute your maths there. Most goers aren&#8217;t on badge farms, but looking to do their one HC for the 2 frost. Given that they&#8217;ve already invested the search time, a slow run may add proportionally less to their relative time spent, but absolutes matter too and an hour or more to do your daily can grate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bristal</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-6396</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bristal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I DPS with a gearscore of 5K.  I also respect the tank&#039;s authority and feel it&#039;s their show.  I appreciate a well tanked blitzkrieg, as well as a slow, deliberate learner plod.  

The slow plods remind me how to control my aggro, how/when to use CC, and those runs are often more interesting to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DPS with a gearscore of 5K.  I also respect the tank&#8217;s authority and feel it&#8217;s their show.  I appreciate a well tanked blitzkrieg, as well as a slow, deliberate learner plod.  </p>
<p>The slow plods remind me how to control my aggro, how/when to use CC, and those runs are often more interesting to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Burnita</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-6395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Burnita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m currently opperating my &quot;no taunt&quot; policy in randoms. 

First, no taunts for out agroing. If you can out agro a bear in a mix of 245-264 gear, then frankly you must have been DPSing a target I&#039;m not even in melee with, or you&#039;re so overgeared that you&#039;ll kill it without needing a tank.
Second, no taunts for pulling a mob that I didn&#039;t pull. You want him? He&#039;s yours, enjoy, I wish you luck in your Warlock tanking (Or in one notorious case, Healadin Tanking...). I make an exception if it&#039;s a mis-pull (They happen) or if the healer now has agro (Assuming it wasn&#039;t their fault).

In essence, it&#039;s very much egotistical, but having a tank geared like yourself tank their instance is a privilage. If they&#039;d rather have a go and have you leave, stuff them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently opperating my &#8220;no taunt&#8221; policy in randoms. </p>
<p>First, no taunts for out agroing. If you can out agro a bear in a mix of 245-264 gear, then frankly you must have been DPSing a target I&#8217;m not even in melee with, or you&#8217;re so overgeared that you&#8217;ll kill it without needing a tank.<br />
Second, no taunts for pulling a mob that I didn&#8217;t pull. You want him? He&#8217;s yours, enjoy, I wish you luck in your Warlock tanking (Or in one notorious case, Healadin Tanking&#8230;). I make an exception if it&#8217;s a mis-pull (They happen) or if the healer now has agro (Assuming it wasn&#8217;t their fault).</p>
<p>In essence, it&#8217;s very much egotistical, but having a tank geared like yourself tank their instance is a privilage. If they&#8217;d rather have a go and have you leave, stuff them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dread</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/it-came-from-the-pug-when-good-players-go-bad/#comment-6394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dread]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you mark a skull they just ignore it anyway. Don&#039;t bother. You might as well just aoe tank and deal with it, if they pull, let em. I don&#039;t give a damn if trigger happy rogue pulls and dies because he didn&#039;t pay attention. What&#039;s he gonna do? Leave?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you mark a skull they just ignore it anyway. Don&#8217;t bother. You might as well just aoe tank and deal with it, if they pull, let em. I don&#8217;t give a damn if trigger happy rogue pulls and dies because he didn&#8217;t pay attention. What&#8217;s he gonna do? Leave?</p>
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