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	<title>Comments on: LOTRO update, Final Fantasy screws the pacing, and can SWTOR really get 2 million subs?</title>
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		<title>By: openedge1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You said
&quot;Yes. Star Wars is a big and very well known franchise. But if that was all it took, then why isn’t LOTRO larger than World of Warcraft?&quot;

Because it is not a good game. 

It also took the alternate license of the books. Thus, it could not &quot;associate&quot; itself with the movie license models, which are shown to &quot;sell&quot; more copies of games, etc.

Just watch how well &quot;The Lord of the Rings: War in the North&quot;, the new game from Snowblind sells...it will walk all over LOTRO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said<br />
&#8220;Yes. Star Wars is a big and very well known franchise. But if that was all it took, then why isn’t LOTRO larger than World of Warcraft?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because it is not a good game. </p>
<p>It also took the alternate license of the books. Thus, it could not &#8220;associate&#8221; itself with the movie license models, which are shown to &#8220;sell&#8221; more copies of games, etc.</p>
<p>Just watch how well &#8220;The Lord of the Rings: War in the North&#8221;, the new game from Snowblind sells&#8230;it will walk all over LOTRO.</p>
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		<title>By: We Fly Spitfires</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[We Fly Spitfires]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But I’ll still wish it was Mass Effect Online rather than Star Wars&quot;

I agree completely! :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I’ll still wish it was Mass Effect Online rather than Star Wars&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree completely! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jomu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jomu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mmm fresh bagel, cream cheese and smoked salmon.. i could have that every day ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmm fresh bagel, cream cheese and smoked salmon.. i could have that every day <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1,999,996. I wanna play Mass Effect too. And Dragon Age. Unfortunately, my computer came down with a bad case of failed PSU (it started making crackling noises - not usually a good sign in an electronic component). Besides it couldn&#039;t play those games anyway...I got it late 2005 and only upgraded them slightly. Oh well. I&#039;ll be getting a new one later this year capable of actually doing these things. I&#039;m currently only on chapter 4 of FFXIII though, but I&#039;m really enjoying it. I got a little out of touch with it when it forced me to fight using 3 ravagers. That was painful, slow and annoying, and I was so glad when Lightning came back and I could actually hold chains again :P. Anyway, did I have a point here? Don&#039;t think I did.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1,999,996. I wanna play Mass Effect too. And Dragon Age. Unfortunately, my computer came down with a bad case of failed PSU (it started making crackling noises &#8211; not usually a good sign in an electronic component). Besides it couldn&#8217;t play those games anyway&#8230;I got it late 2005 and only upgraded them slightly. Oh well. I&#8217;ll be getting a new one later this year capable of actually doing these things. I&#8217;m currently only on chapter 4 of FFXIII though, but I&#8217;m really enjoying it. I got a little out of touch with it when it forced me to fight using 3 ravagers. That was painful, slow and annoying, and I was so glad when Lightning came back and I could actually hold chains again <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> . Anyway, did I have a point here? Don&#8217;t think I did&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ZombiePirate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ZombiePirate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Make that 1,999,997. I need to get my X-box fixed so I can play ME2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that 1,999,997. I need to get my X-box fixed so I can play ME2.</p>
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		<title>By: Magson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1,999,998 others Spinks.  I&#039;ll be playing with ya.

But yeah, for them to announce they &quot;need&quot; 2 million subs is silly.  The game looks fun, and I love Star Wars, but I loved LOTR and don&#039;t play LOTRO.  Take that for what you will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1,999,998 others Spinks.  I&#8217;ll be playing with ya.</p>
<p>But yeah, for them to announce they &#8220;need&#8221; 2 million subs is silly.  The game looks fun, and I love Star Wars, but I loved LOTR and don&#8217;t play LOTRO.  Take that for what you will.</p>
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		<title>By: Dblade</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dblade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never could get into Mass Effect for the same reasons spinks. I think I would have liked it more as a pure action game, with the first game&#039;s attempt to blend shooter and rpg meh for me. Then again, I like JRPGs more too.

2 million subs is a lot. Really, apart from WOW have we even seen consistent 500k plus subs? Like I said on Massively, they aren&#039;t going to be able to count on a weak market, and I&#039;d pick FF 14 over it myself evenw ith Bioware and Star Wars in general.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never could get into Mass Effect for the same reasons spinks. I think I would have liked it more as a pure action game, with the first game&#8217;s attempt to blend shooter and rpg meh for me. Then again, I like JRPGs more too.</p>
<p>2 million subs is a lot. Really, apart from WOW have we even seen consistent 500k plus subs? Like I said on Massively, they aren&#8217;t going to be able to count on a weak market, and I&#8217;d pick FF 14 over it myself evenw ith Bioware and Star Wars in general.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The issue I have with Mass Effect is that I am really bad at shooters and don&#039;t much enjoy them. I never finished the first ME, but I did love the background, characters, and everything else apart from the combat :)

It&#039;s on my to-do list sometime. I&#039;ll turn everything onto ultra-easy and see if I can get through it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue I have with Mass Effect is that I am really bad at shooters and don&#8217;t much enjoy them. I never finished the first ME, but I did love the background, characters, and everything else apart from the combat <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s on my to-do list sometime. I&#8217;ll turn everything onto ultra-easy and see if I can get through it.</p>
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		<title>By: Longasc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Longasc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if they make a Mass Effect or Dragon Age MMO first, if at all. SW:TOR will keep them busy for sure, and there is not so much point in offering your potential customer base two Scifi MMOs. Or two MMOs, unless SW:TOR is running so freaking well that they can dare to think about a fantasy alternative with a DA:O based MMO.

But this talk about Mass Effect made me wonder... I know it is comparing apples and oranges, so it comes down to taste. But BlueKae already told me he liked Mass Effect 2 a lot more than Dragon Age. Did you also like it as much?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if they make a Mass Effect or Dragon Age MMO first, if at all. SW:TOR will keep them busy for sure, and there is not so much point in offering your potential customer base two Scifi MMOs. Or two MMOs, unless SW:TOR is running so freaking well that they can dare to think about a fantasy alternative with a DA:O based MMO.</p>
<p>But this talk about Mass Effect made me wonder&#8230; I know it is comparing apples and oranges, so it comes down to taste. But BlueKae already told me he liked Mass Effect 2 a lot more than Dragon Age. Did you also like it as much?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;But I’ll still wish it was Mass Effect Online rather than Star Wars...&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m with ya on that one! I still think after Mass Effect 3 is finished, BioWare will begin work on a Mass Effect MMOG. But I do hope they come up with a better name than just tacking &quot;Online&quot; onto the end. Always seemed a bit uncreative. And redundant, no? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But I’ll still wish it was Mass Effect Online rather than Star Wars&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m with ya on that one! I still think after Mass Effect 3 is finished, BioWare will begin work on a Mass Effect MMOG. But I do hope they come up with a better name than just tacking &#8220;Online&#8221; onto the end. Always seemed a bit uncreative. And redundant, no? <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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