Comments on: End of the Expansion Blues

By: spinks

spinks — Sat, 08 May 2010 03:55:52 +0000

I honestly think they did a much better job of making the fights more fun for everyone in Ulduar.

When I’m talking about boring tank fights in ICC, I don’t just mean a bit boring (OT on BQL genuinely just requires you to stand next to the MT for the whole fight, and separate when she’s in the air) and I don’t just mean one or two fights.

Sure, they’ve made some cool dps or heal fights. But I don’t get to do that so I’m bored.

By: Simon Jones who is blogless

Simon Jones who is blogless — Sat, 08 May 2010 01:05:43 +0000

I think there is an issue though in that those fights you’ve mentioned as dull? Are interesting from a DPS or Heals perspective. Blood Queen is a lot fun as DPS, for example.

And a lot of fights I’ve seen mentioned as interesting from a tanking perspective do come across a tank and their 24 sidekicks from a dps/heals point of view.

So I’m just wondering if it is possible to balance it out for both sides. The closest I’ve seen in a while is Lich King and that fight is twitchy and complicated as all get out.

By: Weekly Lagout « A High Latency Life

Weekly Lagout « A High Latency Life — Fri, 07 May 2010 20:42:24 +0000

[...] Spinks got the blues, and I with her on this one, but if you played WoW in the summer before an expansion this is nothing new. Nothing at all. [...]

By: spinks

spinks — Fri, 07 May 2010 17:07:32 +0000

Someone broke the NDA as soon as the client was released, just like they always do. Every single time. Then the information gets straight out to mmo-champion, and then to wow.com and so on. The NDA just seems to serve no purpose, and they must know this by now.

By: spinks

spinks — Fri, 07 May 2010 17:01:15 +0000

I’ve really enjoyed raid tanking in Wrath, so I’d encourage anyone to give it a go if you’re curious. I may be one of those annoying people who gets bored of something as soon as I get good at it.

By: boatorious

boatorious — Fri, 07 May 2010 16:06:13 +0000

I’m always a half-step away from switching from dps to tank, because tanking grass always seems so much greener.

But it’s good to read the tank side of the equation. At least as DPS there is almost always plenty of challenge in the fights, and failing that you can work on boosting your dps.

By: Bri

Bri — Fri, 07 May 2010 15:16:20 +0000

“why do they even bother with an NDA any more, I wonder? ”

I think it’s important to note that all of info that MMO Champion has is being datamined out of the alpha client. They’re not participating in the alpha as far as I know, and so have never agreed to an NDA. That’s just Boubouille doing what Boubouille does best.

By: Uzi

Uzi — Fri, 07 May 2010 12:16:15 +0000

I think you’re quite right on Tanking difficulty. A lot of the challenge seems to have been moved to DPS or healers. There are an awfull lot of fights where the tanks just stand there and swap now and then. Some of the fights improve on Heroic mode or if you get the raid quest (Lady D looked much more involved for tanks especially on 25 man with the raid q). But most dont.

I think perhaps I have a case of end of expansion blues too so maybe the glass is half empty and slightly cracked?

Sure ICC has some nice moments and compared to TotC its brilliant but Ulduar was a real Gem

By: spinks

spinks — Fri, 07 May 2010 11:40:19 +0000

I think there are way more dull tanking fights in ICC. how about princes, blood queen, rotface (MT), festergut, saurfang, marrowgar. You cannot seriously compare those to iron council, any of the keepers, Vezaxx or Yogg, or even Ignis.

And don’t start me on 3rd tank at putricide (you’re lucky you don’t have to do that).

By: Dwism

Dwism — Fri, 07 May 2010 11:33:25 +0000

I find plenty of tank fights in ICC very much challenging over those in Ulduar. Sindragosa for one, and LK and OT in putricide (yes it is).
Especially in HM (i do ‘only’ raid 10 though), Personally I think tanking in icc is very much tougher than Ulduar, and more fun.
I’ve not been challenged this much since sarth 3d