But if I’m unhappy with my raid group, I am the one who needs to think about where I’d rather be. And I suspect that after the LK is down, I’ll be taking a long break from raiding (apart from the odd PUG here and there, maybe). Maybe I’ll take it up again in Cataclysm if I end up in a raid group and time allows. Maybe it’ll be on a new server, with a new alt, or with a new bunch of people. We’ll see how things go. In any case, we’ve had a good run.

(It is annoying when non-tanks whine at us on the private tank channel though, which you never have )

However, as much as I want to, I cannot raid every night of a week. That means that doing only the guild 3×25-man nights, I end up behind on gear compared to the guys who do guild or guild/pug 10s each week as well. Plus that unofficial guild 10s go through content faster meaning I am also behind on practice of tactics.

It makes it really difficult to keep up with the raid group as a whole without raiding more than I want to. At least in Cata we as a guild will pick a size and any extra raiding will be on alts, meaning there may be an edge on tactics, but the gear gap shouldn’t be as bad.

I experienced it several times, when guildies raiding with 25 man group were joining guild-ran 10 mans.

They already been there done that, they were totally overgeared, they made kills go smoother but were unintentionally stealing fun and good spirit from rest of us. It wasn’t their fault, it was a system fault.

On the other hand, many “casual” raiding guilds recruits people with promise of relaxed attendance requirements. What they don’t say, is that if you won’t join optional 10-mans or pug them, you will be out of the loop with experience and behind with emblems/gear.

Shared raid lockdowns, I want them now!!!

I think Larisa is correct. It is about courtesy and respect or rather the lack of it shown in last nights raid by some people.

I personaly removed my Kingslayer title pre raid and tried to keep my comments to non-spolier type (ie answering technical healing questions and explaining mechanics people had read about but not understood)as I didnt want to ruin it for others. Other people did not. And I may have gone to far, not painting myself whiter than white. Heck reading tactics can do that and I sometimes whish they werent out there. In any case even though I wasnt exposed to any tank channel comments some of the shine was removed for me as well and I was initialy thrilled by the prospect of the bigger stage despite knowing the fight from 10 man.

In light of this and human nature I’ve now accepted the changes Blizz have announced to 10/25 raid locks as being a good idea. As Rhii and Simon have said….barring a few ‘clone army’ types at least people will come to raids they’ve seen before on different characters/specs in Cata. I would love if people could all take the attitude of ‘Hey done it in 10 man, but now we’re going Bigtime. Its like taking a show to the West End. Bigger Cast. Different challenges for all its the same plot’. Or you know….done it on Broadway but now we’re taking it small and intimate where each actor needs to be on their game and not hoping to be lost in the crowd when they mess up.

So bring on shared raid locks so this doesnt happen again.