Comments on: It came from the PUG: Is there something in the Northrend water that turns people into idiots?

By: Myopic Vitriol

Myopic Vitriol — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:40:29 +0000

By the time I quit WoW for the final time I had ten 80s and quite a bit of /played time.

Let me tell you: This has never changed, and will not change. You could take ten people out from a Naxxramas first kill raid and not lose anything. Hell, it made things easier because you didn’t have to heal the dead weight or expect them to do anything. I think we had 29 for our Razuvious kill first time we walked in. The only boss we had 40 on a successful kill was Heigan, and only because the Safety Dance killed the dead weight.

Ahn’Qiraj before that was even worse! Twin Emporers was nigh impossible due to people using AoE attacks like idiots. First time we did it we had 34, I believe. And C’thun was easier too, less chance of death laser at the very beginning to wipe half the raid.

So before they had the cross server stuff, people may have been forced to be a little more competent or kiss ass more, but honestly? Lowering the difficulty isn’t that bad in the long run. It’s certainly working out for them!

By: korenmolen

korenmolen — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:19:07 +0000

I remember when the instances were hard. Wiping on Skadi, wiping on Loken, wiping to the end boss in UK – oh dear, yes. And wiping in occulus too.

We were in greens and blues – and we were an all plate party. And we were learning.

Along the way, our tank was patiently teaching us guildies about standing behind the mob, about aggro and our healer was teaching us about standing in the fire. Our tank taught us a lot – we eventually died less often, but it wasn’t until the Great Badge Nerf that we all got so blase about heroics…

By: Kring

Kring — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:38:17 +0000

Success has to come easier in game then in RL, otherwise people would turn back to RL.

By: arbitrary

arbitrary — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 04:55:27 +0000

The instances are still hard for me!

By: Rhii

Rhii — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:26:45 +0000

I meet more dps who don’t know Krystallus’s mechanic too. Today I had to painstakingly explain to a roomful of ranged that we probably wiped because they all stacked on the tank.

Yes, Ormorok is easier if you stack. No, not all craggy giant dudes are the same.

By: Bristal

Bristal — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:18:37 +0000

If you make people run content they don’t like, every damn day with no options, what do you think you’ll get?

Giving people 1/50th of a great piece of gear for running the same instances over and over…it’s just poor design for gamers, good design for developers.

Damand more.

By: Bronte

Bronte — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:40:59 +0000

Short answer: Yes. Yes there is something in the Northrend water that turns people into idiots.

By: Kudos

Kudos — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:56:17 +0000

I think that Blizz took a huge step backwards with heroics in Wrath.

Remember having to run normal mode instances an ungodly number of times back in TBC to get to honored so you could unlock heroics? That at least made sure everyone was familiar with the instance and could understand the tactics needed.

Now we just get to friendly, grab a tabard and go AoE everything down to get the rep and badges.

I only run my one heroic a day with guildies now. But we always noob it up for fun… pally heals using ret gear and righteous fury, warlock fearing everything in sight and hunters misdirecting to anyone but the tank. We laugh our arses off because because we never wipe.

By: Shintar

Shintar — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:49:31 +0000

This, I think. The random dungeon rewards at low levels are pretty forgettable, so you only go on runs if you really want to. Northrend lures people into its instances with emblems, so you get shorter queues but at a price. Unfortunately.

By: Archangel

Archangel — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:26:45 +0000

“…When was the last time you had to kite Mage Lord Urom off the ice patches he puts down…”. I was the tank and because we had few poor geared people, I didn’t want them to die. So I decided to do the normal thing and kite the boss as I was suppose to do in the first place. Although usually he is burned down where he stands. The pug healer of that run, who was also “of the Ashen Verdict” says to me in party “stop moving him around ffs”