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	<title>Comments on: Ask not what you can do for your guild &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Bronte</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never understood why they took away cauldrons in the first place. But it will certainly be a welcome addition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood why they took away cauldrons in the first place. But it will certainly be a welcome addition.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Pruckowski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Pruckowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt we&#039;ll see much scamming of it, because it&#039;s quite simply not that much money if you&#039;re below max-level.  Unless you literally get several dozen active people, it&#039;s just not better gold-per-hour than doing dailies.  Some friends of mine in EVE Online worked on a similar scam, and it&#039;s way, way, way more work than you&#039;d expect.  It only works there because of the complexity of the crafting system and how it needs corpmates to work.

I&#039;m not saying you won&#039;t see guildleaders and officers of crappy guilds skim off the top, but I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll see mass looting or outright scams.  Similarly, adding noobs to your guild won&#039;t really help, because guild XP is capped so that like only the 10 &quot;best&quot; people contribute.  So having 30 levelling newbies doesn&#039;t help much.  What we might see happen is PvE guilds recruit some PvP guys (and vice versa) so that they&#039;re earning guild XP on two fronts.  Or you might have raiders just decide to work on guild XP by spending every other saturday afternoon doing BGs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt we&#8217;ll see much scamming of it, because it&#8217;s quite simply not that much money if you&#8217;re below max-level.  Unless you literally get several dozen active people, it&#8217;s just not better gold-per-hour than doing dailies.  Some friends of mine in EVE Online worked on a similar scam, and it&#8217;s way, way, way more work than you&#8217;d expect.  It only works there because of the complexity of the crafting system and how it needs corpmates to work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying you won&#8217;t see guildleaders and officers of crappy guilds skim off the top, but I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll see mass looting or outright scams.  Similarly, adding noobs to your guild won&#8217;t really help, because guild XP is capped so that like only the 10 &#8220;best&#8221; people contribute.  So having 30 levelling newbies doesn&#8217;t help much.  What we might see happen is PvE guilds recruit some PvP guys (and vice versa) so that they&#8217;re earning guild XP on two fronts.  Or you might have raiders just decide to work on guild XP by spending every other saturday afternoon doing BGs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwism</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dwism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This could also open up for a whole new level of scamming: Get new players into your guild, and watch the money roll in.
Promise stuff once they reach 85, and the /gdisband]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could also open up for a whole new level of scamming: Get new players into your guild, and watch the money roll in.<br />
Promise stuff once they reach 85, and the /gdisband</p>
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		<title>By: Copra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Copra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plus that raiding guilds would eagerly get as many levelling noobies among their ranks to generate that money for raiding and completely forget them. Raiders are the elite, the levelling players are the pawns.

Selfishness on the guild size. Brutality of the lack of social tools and incentives in the game.

Not to mention the railroading of people into socializing alltogether.

C out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus that raiding guilds would eagerly get as many levelling noobies among their ranks to generate that money for raiding and completely forget them. Raiders are the elite, the levelling players are the pawns.</p>
<p>Selfishness on the guild size. Brutality of the lack of social tools and incentives in the game.</p>
<p>Not to mention the railroading of people into socializing alltogether.</p>
<p>C out</p>
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		<title>By: Longasc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You asked some good questions:

* What will guilds do with the money? Or better, what will the Guild Leader and Officers do with the extra 10% (other question: why not let players chose if they want to loot only 90% gold and donate 10% to the guild bank. Is there not already enough inflation in the game?)

* How to get the guild perks? &lt;- how are they earned?

* This could create monster sized guilds with all perks and several semi-independent &quot;raid divisions&quot;


I still think people should join a guild because they genuinely like to play with their fellow guildmates. Now I would rather try to join a guild with all bonuses to have my own selfish desires fulfilled. Heck, some people might even pay for a spot just to be in such a guild.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You asked some good questions:</p>
<p>* What will guilds do with the money? Or better, what will the Guild Leader and Officers do with the extra 10% (other question: why not let players chose if they want to loot only 90% gold and donate 10% to the guild bank. Is there not already enough inflation in the game?)</p>
<p>* How to get the guild perks? &lt;- how are they earned?</p>
<p>* This could create monster sized guilds with all perks and several semi-independent &quot;raid divisions&quot;</p>
<p>I still think people should join a guild because they genuinely like to play with their fellow guildmates. Now I would rather try to join a guild with all bonuses to have my own selfish desires fulfilled. Heck, some people might even pay for a spot just to be in such a guild.</p>
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