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	<title>Comments on: Gaming News: Gamescom News (GW2, Diablo III et al), Skaven for Warhammer Online, Age of Empires goes F2P, Blizzard sues private server, 90% kids in the US play online games</title>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/gaming-news-gamescom-news-gw2-diablo-iii-et-al-skaven-for-warhammer-online-age-of-empires-goes-f2p-blizzard-sues-private-server-90-kids-in-the-us-play-online-games/#comment-10795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not talking about a wholesale conversion for the game, just opening new servers with a different model.  I  consider *subs* unethical; it spawns bad game design and has the effect Spinks noted:  &quot;a lot of people continue to pay when they aren’t playing very much.&quot;

Very uncool from where I sit.

That said, I&#039;m not really a fan of buying power either, actually, which is what it sounds like they were doing on that private server.  I&#039;d rather a &quot;buy content&quot; like Guild Wars or Wizard 101.

Whatever the case, there&#039;s money being left on the table.  This is a clear demonstration of that.  Break up the demand curve (leave subs as one option, absolutely), and you typically find more success.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not talking about a wholesale conversion for the game, just opening new servers with a different model.  I  consider *subs* unethical; it spawns bad game design and has the effect Spinks noted:  &#8220;a lot of people continue to pay when they aren’t playing very much.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very uncool from where I sit.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m not really a fan of buying power either, actually, which is what it sounds like they were doing on that private server.  I&#8217;d rather a &#8220;buy content&#8221; like Guild Wars or Wizard 101.</p>
<p>Whatever the case, there&#8217;s money being left on the table.  This is a clear demonstration of that.  Break up the demand curve (leave subs as one option, absolutely), and you typically find more success.</p>
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		<title>By: akasha73</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akasha73]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What blizzard did was reasonable enough. As we all know World of Warcraft has revolutionized the way games are played online. It is the most happening &amp; most sought after game on the Net. Teenagers &amp; even adults are hooked on it. Playing on private servers are way too different from playing on the original server. If gaming is your passion, satisfaction is what you&#039;d crave for. If it goes F2P, that&#039;ll be a different story then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What blizzard did was reasonable enough. As we all know World of Warcraft has revolutionized the way games are played online. It is the most happening &amp; most sought after game on the Net. Teenagers &amp; even adults are hooked on it. Playing on private servers are way too different from playing on the original server. If gaming is your passion, satisfaction is what you&#8217;d crave for. If it goes F2P, that&#8217;ll be a different story then.</p>
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		<title>By: scotth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scotth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to play a squat in wh40k.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to play a squat in wh40k.</p>
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		<title>By: Utakata</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/gaming-news-gamescom-news-gw2-diablo-iii-et-al-skaven-for-warhammer-online-age-of-empires-goes-f2p-blizzard-sues-private-server-90-kids-in-the-us-play-online-games/#comment-10769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utakata]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not dissagreeing with you Tesh: I am quite aware how successful that model can be. But I also feels it borders on unethical, where players with healthy wallets will have advantages over those who don&#039;t. And where it doesn&#039;t become a game anymore when you can buy your way threw content. I know lot&#039;s of players don&#039;t have an issue with that. But it&#039;s not the WoW I want to play...let&#039;s just put it that way. :(

And yes spinks, I believe it&#039;s likely been discussed too....that&#039;s what worries me. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not dissagreeing with you Tesh: I am quite aware how successful that model can be. But I also feels it borders on unethical, where players with healthy wallets will have advantages over those who don&#8217;t. And where it doesn&#8217;t become a game anymore when you can buy your way threw content. I know lot&#8217;s of players don&#8217;t have an issue with that. But it&#8217;s not the WoW I want to play&#8230;let&#8217;s just put it that way. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And yes spinks, I believe it&#8217;s likely been discussed too&#8230;.that&#8217;s what worries me. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/gaming-news-gamescom-news-gw2-diablo-iii-et-al-skaven-for-warhammer-online-age-of-empires-goes-f2p-blizzard-sues-private-server-90-kids-in-the-us-play-online-games/#comment-10768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I&#039;m not really sure about this also. I wonder if it&#039;ll end up feeling like so many other web based games (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.travian.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Travian&lt;/a&gt; and the like). But I&#039;m mostly curious about the co-op notion and whether that means something other than just an in game alliance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m not really sure about this also. I wonder if it&#8217;ll end up feeling like so many other web based games (<a href="http://www.travian.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Travian</a> and the like). But I&#8217;m mostly curious about the co-op notion and whether that means something other than just an in game alliance.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/gaming-news-gamescom-news-gw2-diablo-iii-et-al-skaven-for-warhammer-online-age-of-empires-goes-f2p-blizzard-sues-private-server-90-kids-in-the-us-play-online-games/#comment-10767</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Yarr, I&#039;ve updated the post to note that link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Yarr, I&#8217;ve updated the post to note that link.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not clear that Blizzard would actually make more money if they went F2P. Subs are working well for them at the moment, the networking effect means a lot of people continue to pay when they aren&#039;t playing very much.

But I&#039;d be surprised if they hadn&#039;t discussed it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not clear that Blizzard would actually make more money if they went F2P. Subs are working well for them at the moment, the networking effect means a lot of people continue to pay when they aren&#8217;t playing very much.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d be surprised if they hadn&#8217;t discussed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/gaming-news-gamescom-news-gw2-diablo-iii-et-al-skaven-for-warhammer-online-age-of-empires-goes-f2p-blizzard-sues-private-server-90-kids-in-the-us-play-online-games/#comment-10762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was apparently worth a few million, though.  The business model works.  I&#039;ve argued before that Blizzard would be foolish to ignore it.  Smart companies keep subs *and* other options on the table, sometimes concurrently.

I have no doubt many players wouldn&#039;t play WoW if it converted wholesale to a F2P model.  I also have no doubt that many *other* players would jump right in.  So, the smart money does *both*, perhaps on different servers, and caters to both crowds.

This private server showed that WoW can be profitable without subs.  The beancounters at Actiblizzard won&#039;t ignore that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was apparently worth a few million, though.  The business model works.  I&#8217;ve argued before that Blizzard would be foolish to ignore it.  Smart companies keep subs *and* other options on the table, sometimes concurrently.</p>
<p>I have no doubt many players wouldn&#8217;t play WoW if it converted wholesale to a F2P model.  I also have no doubt that many *other* players would jump right in.  So, the smart money does *both*, perhaps on different servers, and caters to both crowds.</p>
<p>This private server showed that WoW can be profitable without subs.  The beancounters at Actiblizzard won&#8217;t ignore that.</p>
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		<title>By: Yarr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yarr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That wasn&#039;t an ArenaNet video but someone in the press with a really poor quality camera phone. You might want to just link to the massive forum thread on Guild Wars 2 Guru:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/this-gamescom-compilation-information-streaming-t6651.html

that has much better videos, still shots, music, quotes, video interviews and such.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wasn&#8217;t an ArenaNet video but someone in the press with a really poor quality camera phone. You might want to just link to the massive forum thread on Guild Wars 2 Guru:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/this-gamescom-compilation-information-streaming-t6651.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/this-gamescom-compilation-information-streaming-t6651.html</a></p>
<p>that has much better videos, still shots, music, quotes, video interviews and such.</p>
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		<title>By: Utakata</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/gaming-news-gamescom-news-gw2-diablo-iii-et-al-skaven-for-warhammer-online-age-of-empires-goes-f2p-blizzard-sues-private-server-90-kids-in-the-us-play-online-games/#comment-10759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utakata]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The day WoW goes F2P is the day I&#039;ll walk from the game. Just saying...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day WoW goes F2P is the day I&#8217;ll walk from the game. Just saying&#8230;</p>
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