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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I echo Cary&#039;s comments, I will not be buying stat tomes, neither will I be buying consumables, and no we are not idiots for doing so.

Frankly I think those willing to spend 125€ on a game buff, let alone for a single character is the idiot.

I sunk £5 on the game, plus a Mines of Moria expansion, thn sunk another £22 recently. I think thats enough. The things you really need to buy are quest zones and a horse. Bags are good but if you choose your methods I hear you can get those by setting up some characters subscribing for a month and keeping them. Perhaps I am an &#039;idiot&#039; for just buying bags, perhaps not.

The 3000TP I received plus Moria has unlocked most of the game content, the few quests zones remaining I can get through deed TP. When all those are mine, any reamining deed TP wil go on trait slots. Only after all this is done will I consider stat tomes.

We are here to play a game, a higher stat is not &#039;game content&#039; its just a way for someone to r0xx0r over another player.   I just dont need to win that bad, yet maybe I still can with a friend or two and a bit of good timing, this is how th game was intended to be played.

Frankly bring on the cash buffed up avatars, its easy if you win and humiliating if you lose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo Cary&#8217;s comments, I will not be buying stat tomes, neither will I be buying consumables, and no we are not idiots for doing so.</p>
<p>Frankly I think those willing to spend 125€ on a game buff, let alone for a single character is the idiot.</p>
<p>I sunk £5 on the game, plus a Mines of Moria expansion, thn sunk another £22 recently. I think thats enough. The things you really need to buy are quest zones and a horse. Bags are good but if you choose your methods I hear you can get those by setting up some characters subscribing for a month and keeping them. Perhaps I am an &#8216;idiot&#8217; for just buying bags, perhaps not.</p>
<p>The 3000TP I received plus Moria has unlocked most of the game content, the few quests zones remaining I can get through deed TP. When all those are mine, any reamining deed TP wil go on trait slots. Only after all this is done will I consider stat tomes.</p>
<p>We are here to play a game, a higher stat is not &#8216;game content&#8217; its just a way for someone to r0xx0r over another player.   I just dont need to win that bad, yet maybe I still can with a friend or two and a bit of good timing, this is how th game was intended to be played.</p>
<p>Frankly bring on the cash buffed up avatars, its easy if you win and humiliating if you lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Berath</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bought a couple of stat tomes for my guardian. A lot of the more stat building jewellery are drops from instances, and sometimes rare ones at that. I haven&#039;t been able to run enough for these drops to happen, so the tomes are some compensation for that for me especially as I got a whole load of points for &#039;free&#039; being a lifetime member and all that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a couple of stat tomes for my guardian. A lot of the more stat building jewellery are drops from instances, and sometimes rare ones at that. I haven&#8217;t been able to run enough for these drops to happen, so the tomes are some compensation for that for me especially as I got a whole load of points for &#8216;free&#8217; being a lifetime member and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[125€ to raise all stats on one character? That&#039;s money I will never spend. I won&#039;t consider myself an idiot for having saved money.

All of the current content in Lotro was doable without a single stat tome and still is. 

Maybe in the future the raids will require everybody to have stat tomes, but that&#039;s a worry for the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>125€ to raise all stats on one character? That&#8217;s money I will never spend. I won&#8217;t consider myself an idiot for having saved money.</p>
<p>All of the current content in Lotro was doable without a single stat tome and still is. </p>
<p>Maybe in the future the raids will require everybody to have stat tomes, but that&#8217;s a worry for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Longasc</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One can buy 5x +10 of each stat. 495 points ~ 5 EUR for each +10.

25 bucks to raise your most important stat.
One has to pay 25 and 125 EUR if you want to raise them all.
These stat tomes/scrolls also drop, the rate is ofc very low.

Let me repeat that, anyone *not* buying stat tomes is an idiot. ;)


Regarding repeatable quests: There are only 8 for faction 4-5 for the Grey Company and 3-4 for the Algraig, depending on a choice. I suggest chosing the much harder to raise Algraig and not the &quot;Feeding the Company&quot; quest for the GC. The Hobbit repeatables offer nothing, while the group quests in Thror&#039;s Coomb offer 13-15 Gold Tokens per run in very little time. This is going to repeat Lothlorien, people will have tons of gold tokens but run out of silver tokens.

After one finished the GC reputation grind, things become bearable. Before that the dailies could take so long that I was not able to do them all on a daily basis. Getting GC company is fairly easy, you get it for almost everything you do in the Enedwaith.


You already paid for LOTRO years ago and 500 points for subscribers per month is quite nice. But next to everything costs 500 points. Very much like you I did not see a reason to buy stuff so far. I wonder if the virtues and other traits I unlocked partially and later completely through subscribing will stay unlocked or fall back to the semi-unlocked state.

This said, I think LOTRO is now a FREE trial.
But if they want to play the game, people should wake up. 

They will pay *much more* under the &quot;FREE 2 PLAY&quot; model than they did with the subscription, and in fact I recommend them taking the subscription option rather than trying to go with a minimum package that will still cost them more, next to nothing in the shop costs less than 5 EUR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can buy 5x +10 of each stat. 495 points ~ 5 EUR for each +10.</p>
<p>25 bucks to raise your most important stat.<br />
One has to pay 25 and 125 EUR if you want to raise them all.<br />
These stat tomes/scrolls also drop, the rate is ofc very low.</p>
<p>Let me repeat that, anyone *not* buying stat tomes is an idiot. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regarding repeatable quests: There are only 8 for faction 4-5 for the Grey Company and 3-4 for the Algraig, depending on a choice. I suggest chosing the much harder to raise Algraig and not the &#8220;Feeding the Company&#8221; quest for the GC. The Hobbit repeatables offer nothing, while the group quests in Thror&#8217;s Coomb offer 13-15 Gold Tokens per run in very little time. This is going to repeat Lothlorien, people will have tons of gold tokens but run out of silver tokens.</p>
<p>After one finished the GC reputation grind, things become bearable. Before that the dailies could take so long that I was not able to do them all on a daily basis. Getting GC company is fairly easy, you get it for almost everything you do in the Enedwaith.</p>
<p>You already paid for LOTRO years ago and 500 points for subscribers per month is quite nice. But next to everything costs 500 points. Very much like you I did not see a reason to buy stuff so far. I wonder if the virtues and other traits I unlocked partially and later completely through subscribing will stay unlocked or fall back to the semi-unlocked state.</p>
<p>This said, I think LOTRO is now a FREE trial.<br />
But if they want to play the game, people should wake up. </p>
<p>They will pay *much more* under the &#8220;FREE 2 PLAY&#8221; model than they did with the subscription, and in fact I recommend them taking the subscription option rather than trying to go with a minimum package that will still cost them more, next to nothing in the shop costs less than 5 EUR.</p>
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