The question is – what’s the difference between the two games, and is there some way to bottle it and infuse it into WoW to make a better playing experience for a lot more people?

I’ll take a debuff on MY failings/screw ups/etc. [ie - my shaman cannot heal HHoR and I will apologize to the group and drop].

I will not take one for a “GOGOGOGO” idiot or the like. If need be, I can take a break and go do some laundry etc… there’s always something to do around the house.

In regard to the second person flipping out about your question, I think it’s one of two things. Either they were afraid you’d continue what was clearly a problematic conversation or they were the type who cannot stand when people point out bad behavior. I ran into the second type not long ago, the sort who constantly insist on that you should drop the argument, but persistent in arguing about it; in my case they didn’t seem to recognize the point in the group running back if all the rezers are dead.

GOGOGGOGOGGGOGOGGO!!!!!!! = “I think we could afford to go a little faster here.”

SHUT UP!!!!!!!! = “Well, unfortunately there’s no point complaining about it now. Best foot forward, eh?”

FFS!!!!!! = “Hmmm, that didn’t go quite as well as I might have hoped.”

Second story is so true. I am always much happier to run with friends/guild members and help them out because it does feel like you are accomplishing something for a common cause (whether it be a bronze drake or gearing someone for raiding). It is always much more enjoyable with companions than randoms!

We had two guys who missed it – Sindragosa heroic with a scratch team is not an easy fight. I felt pretty dreadful about that to be honest.