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	<title>Comments on: It came from the PUG: I&#8217;ll &#8230; roll &#8230; in &#8230; a &#8230; minute</title>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/it-came-from-the-pug-ill-roll-in-a-minute/#comment-12817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stabs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oddly enough the WoW one is about as good as EQ2&#039;s it&#039;s just that no one is in the habit of using it (and it&#039;s a bit pointless joining it alone).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough the WoW one is about as good as EQ2&#8242;s it&#8217;s just that no one is in the habit of using it (and it&#8217;s a bit pointless joining it alone).</p>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/it-came-from-the-pug-ill-roll-in-a-minute/#comment-12816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stabs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s sound. I&#039;ll macro that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s sound. I&#8217;ll macro that.</p>
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		<title>By: nugget</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/it-came-from-the-pug-ill-roll-in-a-minute/#comment-12806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nugget]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 03:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm...

I&#039;m one of those annoying healers who waits. &gt;.&gt;

If it has hitrating, and no spirit... I wait till the caster deeps has rolled before rolling. &lt;..&gt;

Now if only the courtesy would be returned on spirit cloth...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of those annoying healers who waits. &gt;.&gt;</p>
<p>If it has hitrating, and no spirit&#8230; I wait till the caster deeps has rolled before rolling. &lt;..&gt;</p>
<p>Now if only the courtesy would be returned on spirit cloth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fuubaar</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/it-came-from-the-pug-ill-roll-in-a-minute/#comment-12804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fuubaar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 21:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With such blurred lines of what&#039;s actually meant for each class has made this such an odd issue.

A few nights ago, a &quot;DPS&quot; Neck piece dropped in Heroic. It had Mastary &amp; Crit on it but was hand over fist better than what I had for my tank.

One of our Friends (who normally runs Ret &amp; was pleasent enough to go Holy) told me that it was an upgrade for him as well. I told him that the /roll would duke it out. Happily enough, I won the necklace and Reforged the Crit into Dodge and am very happy with my new item.

In wrath, I would have never dreamed to roll on Ret gear as Viable Prot gear. My thing is if it has Hit, Mastery, or Expertice on it, it&#039;s fair game. 

I&#039;ll bet healers and Casters are having the same issues in that department as well since we&#039;re all still gearing up before Raiding. An upgrade is an upgrade I say atleast at this point in time. 

Raiding will probably be a whole different Ball Game.

&lt;3 Fuu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With such blurred lines of what&#8217;s actually meant for each class has made this such an odd issue.</p>
<p>A few nights ago, a &#8220;DPS&#8221; Neck piece dropped in Heroic. It had Mastary &amp; Crit on it but was hand over fist better than what I had for my tank.</p>
<p>One of our Friends (who normally runs Ret &amp; was pleasent enough to go Holy) told me that it was an upgrade for him as well. I told him that the /roll would duke it out. Happily enough, I won the necklace and Reforged the Crit into Dodge and am very happy with my new item.</p>
<p>In wrath, I would have never dreamed to roll on Ret gear as Viable Prot gear. My thing is if it has Hit, Mastery, or Expertice on it, it&#8217;s fair game. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet healers and Casters are having the same issues in that department as well since we&#8217;re all still gearing up before Raiding. An upgrade is an upgrade I say atleast at this point in time. </p>
<p>Raiding will probably be a whole different Ball Game.</p>
<p>&lt;3 Fuu</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/it-came-from-the-pug-ill-roll-in-a-minute/#comment-12801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, there is in game voice chat. It&#039;s just that no one uses it. I mean, it&#039;s not all that good, but it works well enough if people did want to use it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, there is in game voice chat. It&#8217;s just that no one uses it. I mean, it&#8217;s not all that good, but it works well enough if people did want to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: pkudude99</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/it-came-from-the-pug-ill-roll-in-a-minute/#comment-12800</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pkudude99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why I love EQ2&#039;s integrated voice chat.  Makes communication so much easier when you don&#039;t have to type it all out anymore.  Of course, not everyone uses it, but I&#039;d say a majority do anymore.

Is VC slated on a WoW feature list anytime soon?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I love EQ2&#8242;s integrated voice chat.  Makes communication so much easier when you don&#8217;t have to type it all out anymore.  Of course, not everyone uses it, but I&#8217;d say a majority do anymore.</p>
<p>Is VC slated on a WoW feature list anytime soon?</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is one of the functions that has been asked for a lot. It would certainly help people know where they stand.

On the other hand, in a world of dual specs, what does offspec really mean, I wonder?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is one of the functions that has been asked for a lot. It would certainly help people know where they stand.</p>
<p>On the other hand, in a world of dual specs, what does offspec really mean, I wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: tehsh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tehsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t they add another button to the roll function that is &quot;Need for Offspec&quot;?  I know people would still probably just roll Need if they wanted something, but blizz could just grey out the Need button for certain specs they way they do now for certain classes (like as in I can&#039;t roll need on a melee dps ring)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t they add another button to the roll function that is &#8220;Need for Offspec&#8221;?  I know people would still probably just roll Need if they wanted something, but blizz could just grey out the Need button for certain specs they way they do now for certain classes (like as in I can&#8217;t roll need on a melee dps ring)</p>
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		<title>By: Klepsacovic</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/it-came-from-the-pug-ill-roll-in-a-minute/#comment-12797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Klepsacovic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As one of those tanks, I will say this: I have very little clue of the relative merits of stats, so when I seem to be comparing stats, that&#039;s me poking around my desk for a coin to flip.

In regard to the offspec asking thing, I love it, and do speak up.  Last time I threatened to cry if a DK rolled on a tanking trinket.  It worked.  Then karma paid him back with a drop off the very next boss.  I liked that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of those tanks, I will say this: I have very little clue of the relative merits of stats, so when I seem to be comparing stats, that&#8217;s me poking around my desk for a coin to flip.</p>
<p>In regard to the offspec asking thing, I love it, and do speak up.  Last time I threatened to cry if a DK rolled on a tanking trinket.  It worked.  Then karma paid him back with a drop off the very next boss.  I liked that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 13:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is a winner.  PUGs seem to always have two issues: Communication and ninjas.  I&#039;ve thrown a few &quot;RLY?&quot;s towards people needing when you can tell they&#039;re just DEing or vendoring.  You can&#039;t underestimate PUG greed.

No reason to get mad at folks asking if they keep things moving.  You can ask while walking forward pretty easily.  Communication in a PUG is a *good* thing, for heaven&#039;s sake.

That said, I&#039;ll pull Rades&#039; move in the future.  That&#039;s the way to go.  I&#039;ve surprisingly only had one or two folk ask for trades (and never with me) after rolls in my PUG experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a winner.  PUGs seem to always have two issues: Communication and ninjas.  I&#8217;ve thrown a few &#8220;RLY?&#8221;s towards people needing when you can tell they&#8217;re just DEing or vendoring.  You can&#8217;t underestimate PUG greed.</p>
<p>No reason to get mad at folks asking if they keep things moving.  You can ask while walking forward pretty easily.  Communication in a PUG is a *good* thing, for heaven&#8217;s sake.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ll pull Rades&#8217; move in the future.  That&#8217;s the way to go.  I&#8217;ve surprisingly only had one or two folk ask for trades (and never with me) after rolls in my PUG experience.</p>
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