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	<title>Comments on: Tell me why (I don&#8217;t like Uldum)</title>
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		<title>By: Albi</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-13649</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 03:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comedy is all about taking a wound and rubbing salt in it.
These are all meant to be percieved as jokes, and if you get offended by pop culture references like this, then im afraid the internet is not for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comedy is all about taking a wound and rubbing salt in it.<br />
These are all meant to be percieved as jokes, and if you get offended by pop culture references like this, then im afraid the internet is not for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dariela</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-13024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dariela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I&#039;m the odd one out, but I loved Uldum.  After Hyjal its easily my favorite zone in the game.

Of course, I&#039;m a fan of Egypt, Indiana Jones, and bad Nazi humor.

It feels like they made the zone just for me =P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m the odd one out, but I loved Uldum.  After Hyjal its easily my favorite zone in the game.</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m a fan of Egypt, Indiana Jones, and bad Nazi humor.</p>
<p>It feels like they made the zone just for me =P</p>
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		<title>By: arbitrary</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-13015</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arbitrary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really not sure, thus the blog post I guess. I know I hated Schnottz the first time I saw him, and I never really like the German accents fakery. I did like bits of the questline, but I think it was a combination of not really enjoying the cutscenes, or the length of the pastiche as well as the Germans=baddies things. 

I guess if it had lasted only a few quests I&#039;d have shrugged it off, but at points I genuinely felt like just stopping doing them., and it was only everyone&#039;s insistence that the zone was so great that led me to finish them. 

I loved the other Uldum stuff, so I guess maybe I was humourless that day, or it went on too long, or I didn&#039;t like the wholesale Indiana Jones retelling, or felt my char had nothing to do with the storyline. 

But I stand by what I said in the blog post, too. I guess having a ton of people stop by and comment on something I thought was kind of an interesting reaction that I&#039;d not felt before is making me revise whether I should feel anything at all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really not sure, thus the blog post I guess. I know I hated Schnottz the first time I saw him, and I never really like the German accents fakery. I did like bits of the questline, but I think it was a combination of not really enjoying the cutscenes, or the length of the pastiche as well as the Germans=baddies things. </p>
<p>I guess if it had lasted only a few quests I&#8217;d have shrugged it off, but at points I genuinely felt like just stopping doing them., and it was only everyone&#8217;s insistence that the zone was so great that led me to finish them. </p>
<p>I loved the other Uldum stuff, so I guess maybe I was humourless that day, or it went on too long, or I didn&#8217;t like the wholesale Indiana Jones retelling, or felt my char had nothing to do with the storyline. </p>
<p>But I stand by what I said in the blog post, too. I guess having a ton of people stop by and comment on something I thought was kind of an interesting reaction that I&#8217;d not felt before is making me revise whether I should feel anything at all!</p>
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		<title>By: choline</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-13014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[choline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My apologies; those last paragraphs came out a little too tart. 

So let me rephrase, Arb, if you&#039;re still reading this:  What about seeing a parody in WoW made you uncomfortable, apparently much more than what you might have seen in the original Indy movies?  I can understand that might be a bit of a personal question for many reasons, but I will say I&#039;m honestly curious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies; those last paragraphs came out a little too tart. </p>
<p>So let me rephrase, Arb, if you&#8217;re still reading this:  What about seeing a parody in WoW made you uncomfortable, apparently much more than what you might have seen in the original Indy movies?  I can understand that might be a bit of a personal question for many reasons, but I will say I&#8217;m honestly curious.</p>
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		<title>By: arbitrary</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-13010</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arbitrary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 09:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also I wasn&#039;t exactly offended, it just made me a bit uncomfortable and stopped me enjoying the quests as much as in other zones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I wasn&#8217;t exactly offended, it just made me a bit uncomfortable and stopped me enjoying the quests as much as in other zones.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-13009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 05:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please don&#039;t tell people what they should get offended by. If you read the original post, Arb said she didn&#039;t like it, she didn&#039;t say anyone else had to feel the same way. And especially if you haven&#039;t seen the source material that you&#039;re telling people to get offended by.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t tell people what they should get offended by. If you read the original post, Arb said she didn&#8217;t like it, she didn&#8217;t say anyone else had to feel the same way. And especially if you haven&#8217;t seen the source material that you&#8217;re telling people to get offended by.</p>
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		<title>By: choline</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-13008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[choline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been my favourite zone of Cataclysm, especially as an RPer who loves to poke holes in the fourth wall.  I thought it was funny between quests to turn to my levelling partner and remark, in-character, &quot;Why are we doing this again?&quot;  Or to have my character recognize Titan things and loudly declare that we shouldn&#039;t touch those!  

Even the cut scenes didn&#039;t bother me; I thought there were a few too many, but I kinda understand what they were going for.  I mean, as we did quests and completed the chain, we were changing the zone and that had to be shown somehow.

I really think there was payoff in the end though; Brann showed up and we were led into Halls of Origination, and as a Starcaller, it was friggin&#039; profound to go two-for-two on literally saving the world.

I loved Uldum.  I thought it was cheeky, not taking itself too seriously, but still providing a great bridge (the Titans, re-origination, the influence of the Twilight&#039;s Hammer) between fairly significant places/events in prior expansions that seemed to really make no sense.

Now, as for Schnottz and his minions; remember that they&#039;re not riffs of Nazis per se - they&#039;re the Nazis that were in the film, which I would assume (I haven&#039;t seen the old classic Indy movies) were portrayed as over the top and a little wacky.

If you&#039;re going to draw offense at the Nazi references, I&#039;d point you toward the source material for the entire parody and ask that you get offended by that, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been my favourite zone of Cataclysm, especially as an RPer who loves to poke holes in the fourth wall.  I thought it was funny between quests to turn to my levelling partner and remark, in-character, &#8220;Why are we doing this again?&#8221;  Or to have my character recognize Titan things and loudly declare that we shouldn&#8217;t touch those!  </p>
<p>Even the cut scenes didn&#8217;t bother me; I thought there were a few too many, but I kinda understand what they were going for.  I mean, as we did quests and completed the chain, we were changing the zone and that had to be shown somehow.</p>
<p>I really think there was payoff in the end though; Brann showed up and we were led into Halls of Origination, and as a Starcaller, it was friggin&#8217; profound to go two-for-two on literally saving the world.</p>
<p>I loved Uldum.  I thought it was cheeky, not taking itself too seriously, but still providing a great bridge (the Titans, re-origination, the influence of the Twilight&#8217;s Hammer) between fairly significant places/events in prior expansions that seemed to really make no sense.</p>
<p>Now, as for Schnottz and his minions; remember that they&#8217;re not riffs of Nazis per se &#8211; they&#8217;re the Nazis that were in the film, which I would assume (I haven&#8217;t seen the old classic Indy movies) were portrayed as over the top and a little wacky.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to draw offense at the Nazi references, I&#8217;d point you toward the source material for the entire parody and ask that you get offended by that, too.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-13003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 17:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought that accents were supposed to be Russian, and I have never seen &quot;Raiders of the Lost Ark&quot;, so I didn&#039;t really pick up on any of this. But I still hated these quests too - and all of Uldum, really. It just didn&#039;t really feel like WoW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that accents were supposed to be Russian, and I have never seen &#8220;Raiders of the Lost Ark&#8221;, so I didn&#8217;t really pick up on any of this. But I still hated these quests too &#8211; and all of Uldum, really. It just didn&#8217;t really feel like WoW.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-12988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stay classy, fanboi. I&#039;m sure the German posters know better than anyone about their own history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay classy, fanboi. I&#8217;m sure the German posters know better than anyone about their own history.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnivoris</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/tell-me-why-i-dont-like-uldum/#comment-12987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carnivoris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, what a bunch of thin-skinned weaklings many of you are.  Oh, boo hoo, the game isn&#039;t like it has been the past 6 years.  Boo hoo, they changed things.  Boo hoo, the most fantastic, engaging, and fun zone in the game has references to a movie in which the Nazis were villains.  

@Tobold: Guess what?  The Nazis WERE villains.  The Nazis committed some of the most horrific injustices ever conceived against the human race and you DON&#039;T want to make fun of them? If you&#039;re offended by Nazis because you&#039;re German, perhaps you should disassociate yourself with Deutschland because the rest of the world will ALWAYS know Germany as the country that gave birth to one of the most dangerous people the world has ever known.  I encourage mocking and belittling Nazis as much as possible because they deserve no better.

Now that that&#039;s out of the way, Uldum is INCREDIBLE! The Harrison Jones quests are the most fun quests anywhere in the game, for me anyway.  The environment feels like it should: a vast desert with many secrets to find.  I&#039;ll admit, the Ramkahen should play more prominently but there&#039;s plenty to love about Uldum and I know I&#039;ll be doing every quest in the zone on all my alts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a bunch of thin-skinned weaklings many of you are.  Oh, boo hoo, the game isn&#8217;t like it has been the past 6 years.  Boo hoo, they changed things.  Boo hoo, the most fantastic, engaging, and fun zone in the game has references to a movie in which the Nazis were villains.  </p>
<p>@Tobold: Guess what?  The Nazis WERE villains.  The Nazis committed some of the most horrific injustices ever conceived against the human race and you DON&#8217;T want to make fun of them? If you&#8217;re offended by Nazis because you&#8217;re German, perhaps you should disassociate yourself with Deutschland because the rest of the world will ALWAYS know Germany as the country that gave birth to one of the most dangerous people the world has ever known.  I encourage mocking and belittling Nazis as much as possible because they deserve no better.</p>
<p>Now that that&#8217;s out of the way, Uldum is INCREDIBLE! The Harrison Jones quests are the most fun quests anywhere in the game, for me anyway.  The environment feels like it should: a vast desert with many secrets to find.  I&#8217;ll admit, the Ramkahen should play more prominently but there&#8217;s plenty to love about Uldum and I know I&#8217;ll be doing every quest in the zone on all my alts.</p>
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