Comments on: There is a Lt that Never Goes Out… http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/there-is-a-lt-that-never-goes-out/ MMOs and game design Wed, 22 May 2013 22:20:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: spinks http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/there-is-a-lt-that-never-goes-out/#comment-13585 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:13:37 +0000 https://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=5213#comment-13585 Yup, it’s a shame cos I really liked playing melee but I am giving up on it in MMOs. Mage for Rift.

]]> By: arbitrary http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/there-is-a-lt-that-never-goes-out/#comment-13581 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:05:58 +0000 https://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=5213#comment-13581 I’d say they can’t get much worse, but as a Capt, I’ve learned never to say that ;p

]]> By: Docholiday http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/there-is-a-lt-that-never-goes-out/#comment-13580 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:38:23 +0000 https://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=5213#comment-13580 Quick update on the sets, devs have confirmed they are changing – and hopefully for the better :)

]]> By: Dril http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/there-is-a-lt-that-never-goes-out/#comment-13577 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:43:02 +0000 https://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=5213#comment-13577 The Curator was his name :P

And, yeah, I loved Kara. It was (and still is) an amazing place.

]]> By: ZombiePirate http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/there-is-a-lt-that-never-goes-out/#comment-13576 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:39:20 +0000 https://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=5213#comment-13576 This reminds me a bit of my old guild in WoW and Karazhan. We were breezing through the bosses up until we hit teh 2nd gear check boss, the big arcane sentinel guy I can never remember the name for. It wasn’t quite 6 months but week after week it was a wipe-fest. Until one week we’d gone through our first raid night really quickly and had time left so we thought “what the hell, let’s try it” even though we were expecting to go down again. We killed the bugger on the first pass, everyone was super happy and it opened up the rest of the raid to us from that point on. Although the inevitable “who moved?” on Shade of Aran went on for a while too. I still love going through the place even now due to the fun memories of the place.

]]> By: arbitrary http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/there-is-a-lt-that-never-goes-out/#comment-13575 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:29:18 +0000 https://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=5213#comment-13575 Quickly, I agree with most of this. I run with 4 pieces of Helegrod set and 2 of Dol Guldur set cos I’m too lazy to go back and get Annunimas stuff. 4 pieces of Helegrod will be very hard to beat for Capts for a long time, I’m guessing!

]]> By: Longasc http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/there-is-a-lt-that-never-goes-out/#comment-13574 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:14:02 +0000 https://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=5213#comment-13574 Congrats! :)
(I guess this fight reinforced spinks doubts about melee dps even more, poor girl!)

I will structure this a little…

1.) Morskor, the Fellbeast, is a favorite for DPS parses among Champions. The poor beast is debuffed like crazy and the Champs buffed to the max, it is quite interesting to read the max damage hits on Morskor some people put in their resume. :)

2.) The next raid, Ost Dunhoth in Southern Enedwaith, is apparently inside a fortress rather than a tower. I do not like the look and feel of the tower design in skirmishes and the BG raid and hope it gets better and hope the future Isengard raid will be different.

3.) I find the hard mode design of LOTRO and actually WoW as well lacking in general. Doing something in a semi-retarded way to make it more difficult does not have much appeal for me. I guess the “light the brazier for the challenge mode” thing of the Sword-halls is quite a good idea. But that’s probably the only thing I like about the farmhall of Dol Guldur.

4.) Gear stats and set bonuses don’t get better, but worse. Especially when Radiance is gone, the Helegrod set might be even more superior to the BG set for Captains. For Champions the BG set only makes sense with the 5 set part bonus, otherwise it’s not good. The upcoming raid set is a downgrade (if stats don’t change) for many classes, interestingly many Champions still favor the ages old Moria Set with 2 parts Mirkwood Set for stats.
I personally use Helegrod + 1 crafted armor part for my Champion and just wonder about that.

5.) Given that we are almost downgrading ourselves through new raid gear I can only point towards GW to show a system that works without item/gear progression but with customization for the situation.

6.) Rather a few more dungeons or a new kind of endgame content than one raid like BG. Really. You did not mention kin drama, but I am sure there was. Add the huge time investment and all that, I wonder how long it takes developers to realize that this style of endgame content is not for everyone. It also would not help to make the fights easier, quite the contrary, I think it would devalue the “long slog” while not being much more interesting for people who are at their heart no raiders and just in for the loot.

7.) I totally agree, bodies must stay visible for the victory screenshot.

8.) 8 is the maximum number of targets a Champion can attack with shingshing.

]]> By: spinks http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/there-is-a-lt-that-never-goes-out/#comment-13570 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 05:54:58 +0000 https://spinksville.wordpress.com/?p=5213#comment-13570 Congrats, all of you, that was a REALLY long slog.

I did think it was a horrid fight for melee on my burglar. This is because in phase 1 the boss is always moving so you have to run around the whole time to keep up with it, and then quickly run out of range every time it stops and turns around.

The LOTRO team also do seem to like these endurance fights where the boss has so much health that you’re going to have to keep on at it for the best part of 15 mins.

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