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	<title>Comments on: MMO nostalgia aka why you couldn&#8217;t pay me to play EQ</title>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s quite interesting if more of SOE&#039;s resources are being directed at the original EQ. And I&#039;m glad the current version is an improvement on the original, after 10 years in hand.

As for a couple of hundred thousand regular subscribers for an updated EQ, that sounds optimistic. I&#039;m sure there would be some interest but I guess I&#039;m wondering in what way EQ2 (and other similar style games like LOTRO)  in particular fails to scratch the same itch?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite interesting if more of SOE&#8217;s resources are being directed at the original EQ. And I&#8217;m glad the current version is an improvement on the original, after 10 years in hand.</p>
<p>As for a couple of hundred thousand regular subscribers for an updated EQ, that sounds optimistic. I&#8217;m sure there would be some interest but I guess I&#8217;m wondering in what way EQ2 (and other similar style games like LOTRO)  in particular fails to scratch the same itch?</p>
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		<title>By: Bhagpuss</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bhagpuss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I seem to be one of the few commenting on the Fippy Darkpaw experience who also still plays regular EQ. I think the general perception is that no-one plays EQ anymore and hasn&#039;t done for years, but that&#039;s certainly not the case. I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised to find that more people play EQ than play EQ2, and as a current player of both games I get the impression that more of SOE&#039;s resources are currently being directed at the older game.

I actually prefer EQ2011 to EQ1999. I love my mercenaries - the best addition to any MMO ever. All the same I&#039;ve spent a lot more time already on Fippy Darkpaw than I planned or expected, for the simple reason that it&#039;s just a boatload of fun. Extremely satisfying gameplay, that&#039;s all there is to it. If someone would like to make a game with 2011 graphics and identical gameplay to EQ I think they&#039;d have a couple of hundred thousand regular subscribers for a decade or so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to be one of the few commenting on the Fippy Darkpaw experience who also still plays regular EQ. I think the general perception is that no-one plays EQ anymore and hasn&#8217;t done for years, but that&#8217;s certainly not the case. I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised to find that more people play EQ than play EQ2, and as a current player of both games I get the impression that more of SOE&#8217;s resources are currently being directed at the older game.</p>
<p>I actually prefer EQ2011 to EQ1999. I love my mercenaries &#8211; the best addition to any MMO ever. All the same I&#8217;ve spent a lot more time already on Fippy Darkpaw than I planned or expected, for the simple reason that it&#8217;s just a boatload of fun. Extremely satisfying gameplay, that&#8217;s all there is to it. If someone would like to make a game with 2011 graphics and identical gameplay to EQ I think they&#8217;d have a couple of hundred thousand regular subscribers for a decade or so.</p>
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		<title>By: /AFK &#8212; Fippy Darkpaw Edition &#171; Bio Break</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[/AFK &#8212; Fippy Darkpaw Edition &#171; Bio Break]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Spinksville &#8212; MMO nostalgia AKA why you couldn&#8217;t pay me to play EQ &#8220;Yes, you too could travel back in time and experience what it was like to play a game with crappy graphics, arsey raiders, and where it was considered normal to camp a rare spawn for 17 hours.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Spinksville &#8212; MMO nostalgia AKA why you couldn&#8217;t pay me to play EQ &#8220;Yes, you too could travel back in time and experience what it was like to play a game with crappy graphics, arsey raiders, and where it was considered normal to camp a rare spawn for 17 hours.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gankalicious</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gankalicious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey,

Thanks all! I don&#039;t mind a difficult, or bad UI.....Xsyon (new) has a terrible UI and I&#039;m managing to muddle through to give the game a chance. It just seems to be the 2-d environment of UO, but like I said I&#039;ll give it another go.

@Sven- thanks, and welcome! I already have Pirates on my list (6). I saw Ryzon listed in MMORPG&#039;s Under the Radar list:

(http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/36/feature/3690/Five-Under-the-Radar-MMOs.html)

Didn&#039;t realize it was a sandbox, and I think I got fooled by the end bit when they said it closed down.....missed the &#039;only to get resurrected&#039; bit. Will add it on, cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>Thanks all! I don&#8217;t mind a difficult, or bad UI&#8230;..Xsyon (new) has a terrible UI and I&#8217;m managing to muddle through to give the game a chance. It just seems to be the 2-d environment of UO, but like I said I&#8217;ll give it another go.</p>
<p>@Sven- thanks, and welcome! I already have Pirates on my list (6). I saw Ryzon listed in MMORPG&#8217;s Under the Radar list:</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/36/feature/3690/Five-Under-the-Radar-MMOs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/36/feature/3690/Five-Under-the-Radar-MMOs.html</a>)</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t realize it was a sandbox, and I think I got fooled by the end bit when they said it closed down&#8230;..missed the &#8216;only to get resurrected&#8217; bit. Will add it on, cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Greydon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greydon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Playing EQ now can&#039;t be the same.

In the early 90s, online chat rooms were just starting and it was magical.  There was infinite possibility and a sense of common wonder.  Nobody had done this so nobody was jaded and we were all just making it up as we went along.  Several years on, the quality of the experience was notably lower and veterans recalled how good it used to be.  Almost 20 years later and the bloom is gone.  The chat software, the game environment, hasn&#039;t changed much but the people have.  We&#039;ve grown up, we&#039;re all internet veterans who know how the online world works.  Virtual communities are not new; they&#039;ve grown, faded and moved on to arise elsewhere in a new, fragile soil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing EQ now can&#8217;t be the same.</p>
<p>In the early 90s, online chat rooms were just starting and it was magical.  There was infinite possibility and a sense of common wonder.  Nobody had done this so nobody was jaded and we were all just making it up as we went along.  Several years on, the quality of the experience was notably lower and veterans recalled how good it used to be.  Almost 20 years later and the bloom is gone.  The chat software, the game environment, hasn&#8217;t changed much but the people have.  We&#8217;ve grown up, we&#8217;re all internet veterans who know how the online world works.  Virtual communities are not new; they&#8217;ve grown, faded and moved on to arise elsewhere in a new, fragile soil.</p>
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		<title>By: Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with everything you&#039;re saying, although I did have to chuckle at the reference to Rift having &quot;actual new game feel,&quot; given that 95% of Rift is cribbed verbatim from WoW circa 2004. It&#039;s not as old-school at EverQuest&#039;s progression server but it&#039;s pretty damn old-school.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything you&#8217;re saying, although I did have to chuckle at the reference to Rift having &#8220;actual new game feel,&#8221; given that 95% of Rift is cribbed verbatim from WoW circa 2004. It&#8217;s not as old-school at EverQuest&#8217;s progression server but it&#8217;s pretty damn old-school.</p>
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		<title>By: sente</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sente]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My first MMO was Anarchy Online; it certainly affected my perception of MMO play and I really liked the class/skill progression combo, the implant improvements etc.

I went back to the game a couple of times over the years, but it did never lasted particularly long. Still some nice pieces in there, but also things that just feel awkward nowadays. And some of the old wilderness areas are not there anymore, because of everything that had been built.

Whenever they get their graphical/engine revamp done I might jump in again to have a look - although I suspect it might end up to be only a short visit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first MMO was Anarchy Online; it certainly affected my perception of MMO play and I really liked the class/skill progression combo, the implant improvements etc.</p>
<p>I went back to the game a couple of times over the years, but it did never lasted particularly long. Still some nice pieces in there, but also things that just feel awkward nowadays. And some of the old wilderness areas are not there anymore, because of everything that had been built.</p>
<p>Whenever they get their graphical/engine revamp done I might jump in again to have a look &#8211; although I suspect it might end up to be only a short visit.</p>
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		<title>By: We Fly Spitfires</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[We Fly Spitfires]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For me the EQ progression server will be something of a science experiment. Will I actually still think it&#039;s decent? Or will I hate it and wish for the convenience and features of other, newer MMOs? 

I guess I want to see what makes a MMO &quot;good&quot;. It it just components that comprise it or something more than the sum of its parts? Seeing what the EQ community is like on the server and how we behave when forced to play together again will be really interesting too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me the EQ progression server will be something of a science experiment. Will I actually still think it&#8217;s decent? Or will I hate it and wish for the convenience and features of other, newer MMOs? </p>
<p>I guess I want to see what makes a MMO &#8220;good&#8221;. It it just components that comprise it or something more than the sum of its parts? Seeing what the EQ community is like on the server and how we behave when forced to play together again will be really interesting too.</p>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stabs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I played EQ for a couple of weeks in 2000, decided I didn&#039;t like it and didn&#039;t sub past the free month.

From time to time I feel vaguely guilty about this as people in the late nineteenth century may have done when remembering they used a Penny Black to mail a letter.

Thanks for restoring some sanity. After too much of the old school railing on why games can&#039;t be like EQ again I do sometimes wonder if I&#039;m mad and there&#039;s a totally different virtual reality to the one I experienced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played EQ for a couple of weeks in 2000, decided I didn&#8217;t like it and didn&#8217;t sub past the free month.</p>
<p>From time to time I feel vaguely guilty about this as people in the late nineteenth century may have done when remembering they used a Penny Black to mail a letter.</p>
<p>Thanks for restoring some sanity. After too much of the old school railing on why games can&#8217;t be like EQ again I do sometimes wonder if I&#8217;m mad and there&#8217;s a totally different virtual reality to the one I experienced.</p>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will be interesting to see what happens with it.  There really is an odd subset of MMO players who are masochistic nutters.  I get a few of &#039;em even over at my little place whenever I write about challenge and difficulty.

I maintain it&#039;s really a small niche audience, but hey, it&#039;s there, may as well serve it.  It will be interesting to see if it&#039;s commercially viable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see what happens with it.  There really is an odd subset of MMO players who are masochistic nutters.  I get a few of &#8216;em even over at my little place whenever I write about challenge and difficulty.</p>
<p>I maintain it&#8217;s really a small niche audience, but hey, it&#8217;s there, may as well serve it.  It will be interesting to see if it&#8217;s commercially viable.</p>
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