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		<title>By: lol</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/do-you-play-evil-characters-in-rpgs/#comment-17412</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having been a DM since AD&amp;D I have both masteered and played Good and Evil Campaigns, I have to say that mental maturity is an important factor when playing\engineering evil campaigns,

I see the chance of play evil as a way to break up with the flow that forces you to play in the good side always, but it is always practical evil for me.

For me being evil is taking advantage of all the possibilities that would allow my &quot;hero\heroine&quot; end up in a possition of power after the conflict is done, I always tend more towards &quot;realism&quot; in interpretation than &quot;idealism&quot;, if the Alienage is attacked by the Darkspawn and me sending more forces would spread my defenses tight but help the elves who I as human consider barely sentinent animals I would not move a finger, is just what we do over and over thorough history.

Because I am forced more often than not to play always good in videogames, given the choice I choose the refreshing bit, I try my hardest to play different characters everytime so I could experience different sensations every time, if we had more games in which villany were forced down our throats I would probably play more paladin types more often but...we aren&#039;t, so...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been a DM since AD&amp;D I have both masteered and played Good and Evil Campaigns, I have to say that mental maturity is an important factor when playing\engineering evil campaigns,</p>
<p>I see the chance of play evil as a way to break up with the flow that forces you to play in the good side always, but it is always practical evil for me.</p>
<p>For me being evil is taking advantage of all the possibilities that would allow my &#8220;hero\heroine&#8221; end up in a possition of power after the conflict is done, I always tend more towards &#8220;realism&#8221; in interpretation than &#8220;idealism&#8221;, if the Alienage is attacked by the Darkspawn and me sending more forces would spread my defenses tight but help the elves who I as human consider barely sentinent animals I would not move a finger, is just what we do over and over thorough history.</p>
<p>Because I am forced more often than not to play always good in videogames, given the choice I choose the refreshing bit, I try my hardest to play different characters everytime so I could experience different sensations every time, if we had more games in which villany were forced down our throats I would probably play more paladin types more often but&#8230;we aren&#8217;t, so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lol</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A bit of both, but probably more of the first one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit of both, but probably more of the first one.</p>
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		<title>By: Kallixta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kallixta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The definition of Evil is varied and &quot;pacifism&quot; is far older than Gandhi. We are given a set of standards supported by the game while others are not. 

Maybe it&#039;s that we can&#039;t play a St. Francis and avoid killing neutral critters and spend our time picking herbs.

WoW happens to do well in supporting &quot;Do Unto Others&quot;. It&#039;s possible to play a character that never makes the first strike, thanks to proximity aggro.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The definition of Evil is varied and &#8220;pacifism&#8221; is far older than Gandhi. We are given a set of standards supported by the game while others are not. </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s that we can&#8217;t play a St. Francis and avoid killing neutral critters and spend our time picking herbs.</p>
<p>WoW happens to do well in supporting &#8220;Do Unto Others&#8221;. It&#8217;s possible to play a character that never makes the first strike, thanks to proximity aggro.</p>
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		<title>By: xJane</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think John Walker completely gets it and kudos to Bioware for allowing players to take that route. My impression of their Dragon Age and Mass Effect series is that they have moved away from evil as a choice to &quot;Forceful&quot; or &quot;Renegade.&quot; Perhaps they needed to do this for their storytelling (the Blight had to be vanquished, etc.) but I was glad that Bioware allowed me to be [constantly mortified and] a bastard of the Old Republic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think John Walker completely gets it and kudos to Bioware for allowing players to take that route. My impression of their Dragon Age and Mass Effect series is that they have moved away from evil as a choice to &#8220;Forceful&#8221; or &#8220;Renegade.&#8221; Perhaps they needed to do this for their storytelling (the Blight had to be vanquished, etc.) but I was glad that Bioware allowed me to be [constantly mortified and] a bastard of the Old Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Stubborn</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I don&#039;t.  I&#039;ve never wanted to, and never tried to.  In my Pen and Paper RPGs I forbid evil characters, sometimes to the chagrin of my players.  When a player is being particularly evil, I take note and make sure a fair and just response happens eventually.

I&#039;m well aware that some people play games to escape the reality of their situation.  Sometimes the powerless of the real world suddenly find themselves in a position of power in game and aren&#039;t up to the task of being a good leader.  Instead, they abuse &quot;weaker&quot; players (whatever that means in any given circumstance).  

I&#039;ve never ganked someone in WoW.  I&#039;ve rarely started an equivalent-level pvp fight.  About the only time I&#039;ll attack unprovoked, in fact, is if I know the person has been griefing others.

Say what you will, but I play these games to extend my personality in a direction I wish it could be extended in the real world.  I try to do the right thing, be honest and direct, and whatnot in the real world, but often to little or no avail (in fact usually I&#039;m told I&#039;m not being a &quot;team player).  In the game, at least I can feel in character, behaving heroically against overwhelming odds.

So no, I don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;ve never wanted to, and never tried to.  In my Pen and Paper RPGs I forbid evil characters, sometimes to the chagrin of my players.  When a player is being particularly evil, I take note and make sure a fair and just response happens eventually.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m well aware that some people play games to escape the reality of their situation.  Sometimes the powerless of the real world suddenly find themselves in a position of power in game and aren&#8217;t up to the task of being a good leader.  Instead, they abuse &#8220;weaker&#8221; players (whatever that means in any given circumstance).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never ganked someone in WoW.  I&#8217;ve rarely started an equivalent-level pvp fight.  About the only time I&#8217;ll attack unprovoked, in fact, is if I know the person has been griefing others.</p>
<p>Say what you will, but I play these games to extend my personality in a direction I wish it could be extended in the real world.  I try to do the right thing, be honest and direct, and whatnot in the real world, but often to little or no avail (in fact usually I&#8217;m told I&#8217;m not being a &#8220;team player).  In the game, at least I can feel in character, behaving heroically against overwhelming odds.</p>
<p>So no, I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I played KOTOR through once  on the light side, because Jedi, right? And didn&#039;t really love it enough to play through again on the dark side.

But after reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/bastard-of-the-old-republic-article&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bastard of the Old Republic&lt;/a&gt;, I kind of wish I had ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played KOTOR through once  on the light side, because Jedi, right? And didn&#8217;t really love it enough to play through again on the dark side.</p>
<p>But after reading <a href="http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/bastard-of-the-old-republic-article" rel="nofollow">Bastard of the Old Republic</a>, I kind of wish I had &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: xJane</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 19:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spinks (and everyone else), how did you handle Dark Side Knights of the Old Republic? That was evil, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spinks (and everyone else), how did you handle Dark Side Knights of the Old Republic? That was evil, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Quickie: Nope &#171; Procrastination Amplification</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 20:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Spinks asks us whether we play evil characters in RPGs and the title of this post is my short answer to that. My long one is here, a post from the aftermath of Dragon Age: Origins&#8217; release in 2009. It details why I&#8217;m almost physically unable to play the bad guy in immersive games. I wondered back then and am still wondering right now whether I&#8217;m an awful role-player or just an idiot for thinking that way. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Spinks asks us whether we play evil characters in RPGs and the title of this post is my short answer to that. My long one is here, a post from the aftermath of Dragon Age: Origins&#8217; release in 2009. It details why I&#8217;m almost physically unable to play the bad guy in immersive games. I wondered back then and am still wondering right now whether I&#8217;m an awful role-player or just an idiot for thinking that way. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Uzi</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also:-

What is evil?

Is it evil to kill anyone of certain race found within the borders of your country?
Most people would say Yes!
What about a certain species?
My mother would argue the proposed cull the &#039;Ruddy Ducks&#039; across the Uk is an act of evil. I doubt many readers here would are with her. But what if instead of Ducks it was Orcs, or Dark Spawn or Gnomes. Most game players would be okay with that.

Most &#039;evil&#039; people consider themselves good or &#039;serving the greater good&#039; unless they&#039;re actualy mentaly ill.....

Personaly I find the options for &#039;evil&#039; so insipid and often so _stupid_ that unless its a game like Dungeon Keeper I end up playing a good guy...even in Fallout where I could be Hannibal Lector II]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also:-</p>
<p>What is evil?</p>
<p>Is it evil to kill anyone of certain race found within the borders of your country?<br />
Most people would say Yes!<br />
What about a certain species?<br />
My mother would argue the proposed cull the &#8216;Ruddy Ducks&#8217; across the Uk is an act of evil. I doubt many readers here would are with her. But what if instead of Ducks it was Orcs, or Dark Spawn or Gnomes. Most game players would be okay with that.</p>
<p>Most &#8216;evil&#8217; people consider themselves good or &#8216;serving the greater good&#8217; unless they&#8217;re actualy mentaly ill&#8230;..</p>
<p>Personaly I find the options for &#8216;evil&#8217; so insipid and often so _stupid_ that unless its a game like Dungeon Keeper I end up playing a good guy&#8230;even in Fallout where I could be Hannibal Lector II</p>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 06:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, sure, if you&#039;re going to write something with the express purpose of exploring evil, you should focus on it.  I just have no use for that sort of thing.  *shrug*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sure, if you&#8217;re going to write something with the express purpose of exploring evil, you should focus on it.  I just have no use for that sort of thing.  *shrug*</p>
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