so if you pay for a licensing you will want you have a decent SDK with official support like apple does, besides they want to harge $99 for people who get isk donations, wich is stupid even if you buy plex with isk plex is an in game item created when some one pay RL money to ccp and that money never leaves ccp hands so you dont actually make any money from it and isk doesnt pay the bills and for the saving stuff well the subs is around $19 lets do the math $19 (that some one else pay for the plex) x 12 moths= $228 of saving now $228 – $99 (for a commercial license with no sdk kit or official api support) = $129 of savings per year……. wow is amazing im saving $129 by just buying plex that somebody else pay with RL money plus my $99 for the license….. how that make money for me i ask myself, now what programmer in his sane miind is going to value 1 year of his work in just $129 because there is no way you can get RL money for isk unless you brake the eula and start selling isk to players for RL money like a lot of websites.

And lets be real who of us actually donate a single buck to the guys who make apps? no one and the ad websites are free because they put ads on your website.
Now if they want to make something like apple well they need first createa full SDK for devs who want to make apps for eve, give full and offcial support to the api, create an ingame app store where you an buy the app and be able to lauch it inside the game. if they are going to do that then they may deserve the money.

but no they put in the dev blog the api is give as it is a take it or leave it and no official support. tsk tsk. nop bad for bussines.

now i bet ccp is feeling the economical cost to run their bussines the way they do their player base is not big enough like wow or like apple far i know are around between 300, 000 users and usually only 50,000 are online ,so maybe they need to start to run the sandbox on other serves like WoW or other MMOS to increse their player base and make more money either way the eve universe is too small for so many players.

now WoW dont ask you to pay a license far i know just to make an add on, i have no idea if curse.com zygor or dugis pay any royalties or a license to because they sell a service maybe they do maybe they dont, but Blizzard is not asking people who take donations to pay a comercial license.

Now to compare apple with CCP well there is no point of comparison Apple is a multi national company with MIllions upon mILLIONS OF USERS and CUSTUMERS an incredibly big and high value for 3rd party companies to make apps for ipad ipod iphone, they ask a 30% or the sales of your app i think, they give a full supported SDK software and you can register for free has a developer.

CCP has Eve online, a MMO with around 300,000 player base who dont give a Full supported SDK software, they give an api wich is given has it is and is not officially supported, and ask a fee for a developer License of $99/yr
to people who make apps for and income, for those who charge isk a fictional currency for any in game app service (the worst scenario you pay the $169 subs plus $99 just to be able to charge isk for ingame apps? $268 more than if you pay a month by month subs) those this have any value to actually develop software for the game? call me crazy but i dont see any.

If you popped them, how are they much different than a gaming magazine with [gameplay] tips? At least in the US, isn’t there a pretty clear free speech protection?

This would seem much stronger in the case of guides, etc, but even then, I wonder. Can Microsoft sue you for your book, /Introduction to VB.NET/? I guess it comes down to the EULA, but that’s a fight I hope someone has — 1st amendment vs. EULA clicking.

Those apps maybe free, but it’s to gain loyalty for other services that are not.

As a reformed developer of one lonely (but moderately popular) wow addon, I heartily agree.

This isn’t about Joe Average’s Ad-Sporting EVE Blog. This is targeted at people who are serving EVE’s (copyrighted) game data on the web — whatever the EVE equivalent of wowhead is, for example. And if you want to resell that data, you can now do it with CCP’s blessing for a modest fee. Which seems pretty reasonable to me.

The only thing I don’t like is the “license” for non-commercial use. Even if there are no CCP-side shenanigans around that, it would still be a pain for some guy who just makes a spreadsheet.

I love EVEMon, but do you know how much I’ve donated for it? $0.00. Am I mean guy? Not at all. I actually have a “donations” category for my monthly budget, and it goes to a few charitable organizations and causes I care about. I don’t pay for EVEMon, because it’s offered for free.

Is that good for the folks at EVEMon? It’s fine if you develop that product and treat it like a hobby; a few people will donate and you’ll make a few bucks to cover hosting, distribution, etc. But you can’t count on recouping your costs, or make a living out of it.

Today, you can’t charge someone for an EVE app. Being able to actually charge for it will give developers *greater* incentive to produce than they do today. Maybe it backfires on CCP. But to me – it seems like good reasoning to give the folks who make your game better a means to make money doing it. I know there are altruistic souls in this world, but for most people, money motivates. $99/year to turn your app into a profit-center is a great deal, if you’re an aspiring developer.

Even if you don’t want to charge your end users… if you run advertising on your site – even something crummy like AdSense … it’s not going to be hard to recoup $99/year. That’s Monopoly money.

Battleclinic will be the first to go into a full out nerd rage (I haven’t gone to the forums in a while, but I’m sure its not pretty right now). From EVEMON to the their entire loadout forums that any player outside of a month playing uses, they have provided for years for free, just for the chance that players come buy their timecards from them. Which is still money going to CCP. We are talking quality programs (that we all use) for years for no other gain other than that.

It’s seemingly a giant slap in the face to those that have been keeping the outside structure of making CCPs game what it is today by doing this. I hope CCP plans to provide these services if worse comes to worse.

Instead, CCP’s motives here seem pretty obvious – create incentives for people to make apps for EVE. It’s a brilliant move. While EVE has a great app developer community, it’s still pretty small, and populated by “do-gooders” – people who create apps because they love the game. That’s a fantastic motivation, but isn’t enough. With financial incentives, I think you’ll see even more 3rd party developer support, which in the end, is good for everyone.

What am I missing? It works for Apple?