Yep. The one size fits all approach is a little sad.

I’d rather they have class specific quests that make you interact with other classes for a while. Force some quick grouping, not completely unlike the Ahune LFG, but make it a part of a one-shot quest chain rather than a repeatable, boring boss fight.

There’s a lot of room left for quest innovation that Blizzard’s ignoring.

@Azaael — It still has to be enjoyable. I think there’s a misguided perception that casual means a player who doesn’t really want something too difficult. I think casual can also mean you can’t always play for 2-4 hours at a time or for 20 hours a week. I’ve finished some relatively difficult games in my life — GTA3 minus the last mission, GTA3:SA, Resident Evil 1&2, Metal Gear Solid 1&2, etc. But I do them over years of playing, leaving them, coming back. That sort of play doesn’t ingratiate yourself with a raiding guild! (So I haven’t joined one yet, though I’d join quickly if I could get away with a weekly run…)

Just cleaning up trash, running the same dailies over and over is not enjoyable. Shattered Sun was okay, in part because it was a new gameplay mechanic. Tol Barad was a grind. Firelands seems even grindier.

The reward has to be more than gold & gear and minor lore. It needs to be memorable, challenging, and fun. 4.2 isn’t, yet.

Honestly i’d say for a casual player the patch isn’t bad at all. Someone who doesn’t really care for raiding can keep themselves quite busy with the Firelands daily stuff. Will have to see how fast I get sick of Firelands before I actually rate the entire thing as a raid.

I am curious, though, to see how many people were left a little…Not as Impressed as Blizzard were making this patch out to be(and of course they’re going to try to sell something as strongly as they can, it’s their job to). Will be interesting to see by the end of the summer if their subs are better, the same, or worse…

Still, the ZG revamp sounds fun…

If they designed quests to be challenging for my class specifically I’d have more time for them, but as it is I’m just as happy with easy dailies. They’re time sinks anyway. The social side amuses me.

Touch-and-tally quests don’t feel particularly social when I’m playing. The mobs are so soloable it’s a joke already, and when I can ninja-tag and get credit, well, it’s more like watching a barely interactive movie. The quests literally take seconds. No peril. Not even a little.

At least that’s been my take on the Hyjal Firelands quests so far. It’s bad enough I’m considering going FTP to 20 and finally leveling up some Horde.

Are you playing with guildies, or is there some other reason you like touch-and-tally I’m missing? I like PvE to be challenging (though I am, admittedly, a PvE end-gamer).