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		<title>By: Pardoz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pardoz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Add Artifice to that list - colour crystals and enhancements are useful to everybody, and off-hands (shields, generators, foci) to everybody but Smuggler/Agents.  The BoP artifacts are in Artifice too.

The real losers are Synthweaving and Armormech, since they pretty much only make belts, bracers, and the odd shell - if they moved the Strength/Willpower and Aim/Cunning armour mods, respectively, into those two professions they&#039;d be a lot better balanced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add Artifice to that list &#8211; colour crystals and enhancements are useful to everybody, and off-hands (shields, generators, foci) to everybody but Smuggler/Agents.  The BoP artifacts are in Artifice too.</p>
<p>The real losers are Synthweaving and Armormech, since they pretty much only make belts, bracers, and the odd shell &#8211; if they moved the Strength/Willpower and Aim/Cunning armour mods, respectively, into those two professions they&#8217;d be a lot better balanced.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Kilran&#039;s voice actor is amazing! (But he does have a voice I want to punch :) ).

The thing with Biochem and Cybertech is that unlike all the other crafts, they make things that they can sell to any class. I took Biochem too and I&#039;m selling implants as fast as I can make them, for example. Artifice, Synthweaving, Armortech and Weapontech are both limited to two classes. I think Synthweaving can make BoP relics ... not sure about the others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kilran&#8217;s voice actor is amazing! (But he does have a voice I want to punch <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>The thing with Biochem and Cybertech is that unlike all the other crafts, they make things that they can sell to any class. I took Biochem too and I&#8217;m selling implants as fast as I can make them, for example. Artifice, Synthweaving, Armortech and Weapontech are both limited to two classes. I think Synthweaving can make BoP relics &#8230; not sure about the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Remianen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Remianen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though there&#039;s at least one companion I despise (currently &quot;power-leveling&quot; a Trooper to get past his first companion, which is the only companion I truly hate), I must agree with your characterization point. However, your point about Malavi Quinn could also apply (in part) to Elara Dorne. There are lots of duplicates (or at least similarities), as far as basic premises for companion personalities are concerned.

I think the problem with crafting (if you want to call it that) is, aside from the obvious Biochem and Cybertech, none of the other skills have anything they can lord over the competition (PvP, quest rewards, FP rewards, etc). Most other games at least started with something each skill had that was in demand due to its uniqueness or some other factor (not necessarily better stats). None of the other skills have that. I mean, my Biochem characters have stims that not only last twice as long as the storebought stuff, they give bigger buffs (not that these buffs are really noticeable) and they persist through death. Cybertech has implants that (at least under 45 or so) are better than anything available elsewhere. None of the other skills have that (and if they do, someone please point it out).

I actually LIKE Grand Moff Kilran, or at least his voiceover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though there&#8217;s at least one companion I despise (currently &#8220;power-leveling&#8221; a Trooper to get past his first companion, which is the only companion I truly hate), I must agree with your characterization point. However, your point about Malavi Quinn could also apply (in part) to Elara Dorne. There are lots of duplicates (or at least similarities), as far as basic premises for companion personalities are concerned.</p>
<p>I think the problem with crafting (if you want to call it that) is, aside from the obvious Biochem and Cybertech, none of the other skills have anything they can lord over the competition (PvP, quest rewards, FP rewards, etc). Most other games at least started with something each skill had that was in demand due to its uniqueness or some other factor (not necessarily better stats). None of the other skills have that. I mean, my Biochem characters have stims that not only last twice as long as the storebought stuff, they give bigger buffs (not that these buffs are really noticeable) and they persist through death. Cybertech has implants that (at least under 45 or so) are better than anything available elsewhere. None of the other skills have that (and if they do, someone please point it out).</p>
<p>I actually LIKE Grand Moff Kilran, or at least his voiceover.</p>
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		<title>By: Pardoz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pardoz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Foundry, eh?  Iiiinterestink - one of the major NPCs in the Maelstrom mentioned the place.  Time to start playing my Bounty Hunter more, methinks.  (I was incredibly amused to discover that my Consular&#039;s first companion used to work with the Bounty Hunter&#039;s mentor when she first starts out).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Foundry, eh?  Iiiinterestink &#8211; one of the major NPCs in the Maelstrom mentioned the place.  Time to start playing my Bounty Hunter more, methinks.  (I was incredibly amused to discover that my Consular&#8217;s first companion used to work with the Bounty Hunter&#8217;s mentor when she first starts out).</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think those are both Republic only (so I may need to level a Republic character to give Kilran a kicking!). Empire, otoh, get The Foundry which only just appeared on my quest list so maybe more on that in a few levels time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think those are both Republic only (so I may need to level a Republic character to give Kilran a kicking!). Empire, otoh, get The Foundry which only just appeared on my quest list so maybe more on that in a few levels time.</p>
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		<title>By: Pardoz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pardoz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 01:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are the Maelstrom Prison/Taral V Flashpoints (mid-30s) shared or Republic-only?  (Not sure, as I&#039;ve not gotten very far yet Empire-side).

I ask because Grand Moff Kilran - who also shows up on The Esseles, the Republic equivalent of The Black Talon - makes a second appearance in the second one.  

There was universal agreement in the PuG I was in that we&#039;d all wanted to kill the guy since we were level 10.  And if the opportunity to shoot everybody&#039;s favourite Grand Moff in the face isn&#039;t enough, there&#039;s also some nice story/lore stuff in there for fans of the original KoTOR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the Maelstrom Prison/Taral V Flashpoints (mid-30s) shared or Republic-only?  (Not sure, as I&#8217;ve not gotten very far yet Empire-side).</p>
<p>I ask because Grand Moff Kilran &#8211; who also shows up on The Esseles, the Republic equivalent of The Black Talon &#8211; makes a second appearance in the second one.  </p>
<p>There was universal agreement in the PuG I was in that we&#8217;d all wanted to kill the guy since we were level 10.  And if the opportunity to shoot everybody&#8217;s favourite Grand Moff in the face isn&#8217;t enough, there&#8217;s also some nice story/lore stuff in there for fans of the original KoTOR.</p>
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		<title>By: Jomu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jomu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah; slicing is the way to go for pure money; otherwise you&#039;re just losing money via crafting (i guess which is what happens in any mmo)
I think its important you have enough gatherers so you don&#039;t need to spend money (like i do) in the AH]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah; slicing is the way to go for pure money; otherwise you&#8217;re just losing money via crafting (i guess which is what happens in any mmo)<br />
I think its important you have enough gatherers so you don&#8217;t need to spend money (like i do) in the AH</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re not part of the problem, and good luck with the guild ;) Slicing would be an odd design even if no one took it. I guess if most people do take slicing then prices on the AH will rocket up, because the slicers will all be competing for the same small pool of materials. Or maybe by then people will have alts or something,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not part of the problem, and good luck with the guild <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Slicing would be an odd design even if no one took it. I guess if most people do take slicing then prices on the AH will rocket up, because the slicers will all be competing for the same small pool of materials. Or maybe by then people will have alts or something,</p>
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		<title>By: Capella</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Confuzzling Quinn with flirts is the most fun thing ever.


I have to admit, I&#039;m probably part of the crafting problem since I&#039;m also a slicing taker. I have Synthweaving, Archaeology, and Slicing, and I use the profits from slicing to buy metals from Underworld Trading to keep Synthweaving. Because my guild has a fair number of people (and a dazzling number of alts), we&#039;re hoping to be in-house self-sufficient and craft everything the guild needs, rather than relying on buying gear the auction house or random drops from flashpoints. (I&#039;ve run Black Talon 6 times with guildies and I got ONE Juggernaut armor drop. Phoo.) But until the rest of them get crew skills at higher levels, I basically have to use slicing money to buy AH materials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confuzzling Quinn with flirts is the most fun thing ever.</p>
<p>I have to admit, I&#8217;m probably part of the crafting problem since I&#8217;m also a slicing taker. I have Synthweaving, Archaeology, and Slicing, and I use the profits from slicing to buy metals from Underworld Trading to keep Synthweaving. Because my guild has a fair number of people (and a dazzling number of alts), we&#8217;re hoping to be in-house self-sufficient and craft everything the guild needs, rather than relying on buying gear the auction house or random drops from flashpoints. (I&#8217;ve run Black Talon 6 times with guildies and I got ONE Juggernaut armor drop. Phoo.) But until the rest of them get crew skills at higher levels, I basically have to use slicing money to buy AH materials.</p>
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		<title>By: kiantremayne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiantremayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking as someone who took Slicing on his main character and has nearly maxed it out... it&#039;s not as bad as some people are making it out to be. The returns from Slicing missions are pocket change for mid to high level characters - it costs me 1500-1700 credits to send a companion on a high tier mission, it takes 30 minutes to complete and at the end of most of them I break even or make a couple of hundred credits, occasionally I get nothing at all and sometimes it crits and I get a box with up to 5000 credits. At level 28, I&#039;m making more of my money from quesating and looting than Slicing. 

However, because crew skills aren&#039;t gated by level in TOR it means that low level characters have access to pocket change for high levels, which is rather more than pocket change from them. It&#039;s having the same economic effect as people mailing cash from their max level characters to new alts, which is No Big Deal in most games - it&#039;s just happening a bit earlier in TOR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as someone who took Slicing on his main character and has nearly maxed it out&#8230; it&#8217;s not as bad as some people are making it out to be. The returns from Slicing missions are pocket change for mid to high level characters &#8211; it costs me 1500-1700 credits to send a companion on a high tier mission, it takes 30 minutes to complete and at the end of most of them I break even or make a couple of hundred credits, occasionally I get nothing at all and sometimes it crits and I get a box with up to 5000 credits. At level 28, I&#8217;m making more of my money from quesating and looting than Slicing. </p>
<p>However, because crew skills aren&#8217;t gated by level in TOR it means that low level characters have access to pocket change for high levels, which is rather more than pocket change from them. It&#8217;s having the same economic effect as people mailing cash from their max level characters to new alts, which is No Big Deal in most games &#8211; it&#8217;s just happening a bit earlier in TOR.</p>
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