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	<title>Comments on: [SWTOR] Quest of the day, companion chat, and when is a ban not a ban?</title>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sith dancing.  Bleh.  Modern dances in these games might make sense from a social standpoint, but they always bug me.  One of those little immersion killers... ultimately not really a problem, just a mild annoyance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sith dancing.  Bleh.  Modern dances in these games might make sense from a social standpoint, but they always bug me.  One of those little immersion killers&#8230; ultimately not really a problem, just a mild annoyance.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiantremayne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kiantremayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the Lord/Lady thing - the Sith specifically use Lord as a non gender specific title. On the other hand, there&#039;s an Imperial officer on Dromund Kaas whose nickname is the Duchess. I think it may just be that the Sith are actually at the forefront of gender equality, because your ability to Force Choke your enemies is far more important than the exact nature of your genitalia.

And as for the gamers/twats topic - my experience is that most gamers aren&#039;t twats, however most regular posters on official forums are. And just for the record, I&#039;ll contend that I&#039;m not a twat, I&#039;m an arrogant, opinionated asshole. There is a difference :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Lord/Lady thing &#8211; the Sith specifically use Lord as a non gender specific title. On the other hand, there&#8217;s an Imperial officer on Dromund Kaas whose nickname is the Duchess. I think it may just be that the Sith are actually at the forefront of gender equality, because your ability to Force Choke your enemies is far more important than the exact nature of your genitalia.</p>
<p>And as for the gamers/twats topic &#8211; my experience is that most gamers aren&#8217;t twats, however most regular posters on official forums are. And just for the record, I&#8217;ll contend that I&#8217;m not a twat, I&#8217;m an arrogant, opinionated asshole. There is a difference <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, but in this case I rather prefer Lord as a title on a female character. It implies that you hold the rank in your own right, where Lady could just mean someone married to a Lord. So I suspect that isn&#039;t a bug and that someone gave it some thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, but in this case I rather prefer Lord as a title on a female character. It implies that you hold the rank in your own right, where Lady could just mean someone married to a Lord. So I suspect that isn&#8217;t a bug and that someone gave it some thought.</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did find Taris pretty fun as an imperial, mostly because I liked the storylines. The non-class specific storyline has you rushing around helping the Darth who is in charge of the planet to fend off a grave Republic threat and you keep running into his nutty, competitive apprentice who you occasionally have to rescue, threaten, snark at, and possibly kill if that&#039;s what you want. (I dunno if non sith get the same storyline, it may go rather differently if you&#039;re a BH or IA.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did find Taris pretty fun as an imperial, mostly because I liked the storylines. The non-class specific storyline has you rushing around helping the Darth who is in charge of the planet to fend off a grave Republic threat and you keep running into his nutty, competitive apprentice who you occasionally have to rescue, threaten, snark at, and possibly kill if that&#8217;s what you want. (I dunno if non sith get the same storyline, it may go rather differently if you&#8217;re a BH or IA.)</p>
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		<title>By: msp</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure what to believe. On one hand, your explanation makes a lot more sense than &quot;we suspended players for looting too much.&quot; On the other hand, the official forum post doesn&#039;t even hint at win trading or zone flipping; not even in the vague, hand-wavy &quot;creative use of game mechanics&quot; way. Seems like it would be easier to simply state that some accounts were suspended for abusing game mechanics in the new PvP zone, than to spend paragraph after paragraph assuring players that &quot;normal&quot; gameplay won&#039;t result in anything unpleasant. All in all, I don&#039;t know how to call this one. 

Another interesting implication of that official post is that there might be undisclosed &quot;per level&quot; currency norms used to determine how much a character is allowed to make in the game. While my characters weren&#039;t anywhere near Ilum, I might be on their radar due to the amount of traffic I generate on the GTN. I&#039;d hate to get a timeout for that. I think I&#039;ll just hope that your zone flipping theory is correct :).  

Thanks for the reply!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what to believe. On one hand, your explanation makes a lot more sense than &#8220;we suspended players for looting too much.&#8221; On the other hand, the official forum post doesn&#8217;t even hint at win trading or zone flipping; not even in the vague, hand-wavy &#8220;creative use of game mechanics&#8221; way. Seems like it would be easier to simply state that some accounts were suspended for abusing game mechanics in the new PvP zone, than to spend paragraph after paragraph assuring players that &#8220;normal&#8221; gameplay won&#8217;t result in anything unpleasant. All in all, I don&#8217;t know how to call this one. </p>
<p>Another interesting implication of that official post is that there might be undisclosed &#8220;per level&#8221; currency norms used to determine how much a character is allowed to make in the game. While my characters weren&#8217;t anywhere near Ilum, I might be on their radar due to the amount of traffic I generate on the GTN. I&#8217;d hate to get a timeout for that. I think I&#8217;ll just hope that your zone flipping theory is correct <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  </p>
<p>Thanks for the reply!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones who is blogless</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Jones who is blogless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See, that&#039;s a thing with TOR. I&#039;m loving the Bioware bits but the MMO bits are a bit retrograde. Which is fine because I will happily kill ten rats but game should always carry more weight than story and I was kind of hoping the game would be at least as polished as the story parts. 

My particular issue is that a lot of the problems cropping up are ones you could have forseen just by looking at WoW. From the somewhat disturbing faction imbalance (And I have no idea how they&#039;re going to fix that because combining the the ability to look pretty with the skulls and spikes faction was always going to be a thing) to  the Illum issue, these are things that have cropped up on WoW before TOR development even began, so they should at least have been aware that they were going to happen and taken them into account.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, that&#8217;s a thing with TOR. I&#8217;m loving the Bioware bits but the MMO bits are a bit retrograde. Which is fine because I will happily kill ten rats but game should always carry more weight than story and I was kind of hoping the game would be at least as polished as the story parts. </p>
<p>My particular issue is that a lot of the problems cropping up are ones you could have forseen just by looking at WoW. From the somewhat disturbing faction imbalance (And I have no idea how they&#8217;re going to fix that because combining the the ability to look pretty with the skulls and spikes faction was always going to be a thing) to  the Illum issue, these are things that have cropped up on WoW before TOR development even began, so they should at least have been aware that they were going to happen and taken them into account.</p>
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		<title>By: Vatec</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vatec]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if TOR were doing anything innovative, I&#039;d agree with you ;^)

The more innovative the product, the more &quot;room for error&quot; I&#039;m willing to allocate. In fact, I have a great deal of patience for companies and people that are trying new things.

But Bioware is making rookie mistakes for which they have no reasonable excuse. Their implementation often strikes me as copying something they don&#039;t quite understand. Maybe that&#039;s the Mythic influence? Because goodness knows, when Mythic tried to copy their =own game= they somehow failed to understand what had made the original successful and what had led to its failure....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if TOR were doing anything innovative, I&#8217;d agree with you ;^)</p>
<p>The more innovative the product, the more &#8220;room for error&#8221; I&#8217;m willing to allocate. In fact, I have a great deal of patience for companies and people that are trying new things.</p>
<p>But Bioware is making rookie mistakes for which they have no reasonable excuse. Their implementation often strikes me as copying something they don&#8217;t quite understand. Maybe that&#8217;s the Mythic influence? Because goodness knows, when Mythic tried to copy their =own game= they somehow failed to understand what had made the original successful and what had led to its failure&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stabs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Throughout the game male versions of noble titles are used for both genders. There are occasional exceptions, if someone is a dependent female spouse the feminine forms are used.

But this happens elsewhere in society where females who act often call themselves actors to signify they take their work seriously etc

Another minor irritant is that they pair honorifics with titles wrong. A Count should be addressed as My Lord, not Your Highness and so on. They get that wrong almost every time (as do most American fantasy authors).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throughout the game male versions of noble titles are used for both genders. There are occasional exceptions, if someone is a dependent female spouse the feminine forms are used.</p>
<p>But this happens elsewhere in society where females who act often call themselves actors to signify they take their work seriously etc</p>
<p>Another minor irritant is that they pair honorifics with titles wrong. A Count should be addressed as My Lord, not Your Highness and so on. They get that wrong almost every time (as do most American fantasy authors).</p>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stabs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Problem with this view, Vatec, is that it will naturally lead if universally adopted to stagnation. While WoW-clones are fairly soundly understood what is an exploit in an innovative three dimensional travelling MMO?

Also there are always grey areas. I&#039;m one of the people who kept a slicing crew member running all the time while leveling before the Great Slicing Nerf. Was I exploiting? From a certain point of view... yes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem with this view, Vatec, is that it will naturally lead if universally adopted to stagnation. While WoW-clones are fairly soundly understood what is an exploit in an innovative three dimensional travelling MMO?</p>
<p>Also there are always grey areas. I&#8217;m one of the people who kept a slicing crew member running all the time while leveling before the Great Slicing Nerf. Was I exploiting? From a certain point of view&#8230; yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Maldwiz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maldwiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am rather intrigued by the second screenshot, where &lt;i&gt;Ailil&lt;/i&gt; carries the title of &lt;i&gt;Lord&lt;/i&gt; although &lt;b&gt;she&lt;/b&gt; appears to be female. This strikes me as really strange and is hopefully only another minor developmental oversight. Wouldn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;Lady&lt;/i&gt; be the better choice here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am rather intrigued by the second screenshot, where <i>Ailil</i> carries the title of <i>Lord</i> although <b>she</b> appears to be female. This strikes me as really strange and is hopefully only another minor developmental oversight. Wouldn&#8217;t <i>Lady</i> be the better choice here?</p>
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