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		<title>By: Theo Larke</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/03/28/oh-we-havent-had-a-feminist-post-for-at-least-a-month/#comment-18037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theo Larke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 07:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I note that you failed to provided any facts but instead resorted to simple name calling.&quot;

I&#039;d like to point out that every one of your responses to my posts included an ad hominem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I note that you failed to provided any facts but instead resorted to simple name calling.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to point out that every one of your responses to my posts included an ad hominem.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo Larke</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/03/28/oh-we-havent-had-a-feminist-post-for-at-least-a-month/#comment-18036</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theo Larke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 06:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unlike ovarian cancer, reproductive rights, and by extension the ability to control one&#039;s future, are not really a medical issue. You seem to be trying very hard to make it appear to be a medical issue, which kind of boggles me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike ovarian cancer, reproductive rights, and by extension the ability to control one&#8217;s future, are not really a medical issue. You seem to be trying very hard to make it appear to be a medical issue, which kind of boggles me.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Geez, I just wanted to play WoW!&#8221; &#8211; In and Out of Game Deterrents and The Girlfriend Effect &#124; Ironyca Stood in the Fire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;Geez, I just wanted to play WoW!&#8221; &#8211; In and Out of Game Deterrents and The Girlfriend Effect &#124; Ironyca Stood in the Fire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 00:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Risandre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Risandre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just finished an exam yesterday, which is one reason I haven&#039;t come out of lurkdom again to comment on anything. I&#039;ve read all the posts--their comments as well-- and that stirred some pretty strong feelings in me. I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve ever been a tomboy to a great extent, and the only image I had of it, was through George (Enid Blyton&#039;s Famous Five). However, I can&#039;t really say that I have been one all my life. Growing up, I braided manes of ponies and thought that Donatello was the coolest turtle. Thankfully, my parents never had strong feelings about &quot;girl toys&quot; and &quot;boy&#039;s toys.&quot;  However, to certain people, I was less valued by the virtue of my gender, which is why feminism resonated so strongly with me later on in life (aka college). 

Being excellent to people who are different than you is fantastic, but ignores the fact the society is composed by other people than you (general you) when societal inequalities are being referenced. While I can offer support, I can&#039;t fight all inequalities by imposing my voice and power on someone else&#039;s struggle.  

I got a little rambly here, since its the first time I articulated my feelings in writing, so I hope my perspective came across.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished an exam yesterday, which is one reason I haven&#8217;t come out of lurkdom again to comment on anything. I&#8217;ve read all the posts&#8211;their comments as well&#8211; and that stirred some pretty strong feelings in me. I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever been a tomboy to a great extent, and the only image I had of it, was through George (Enid Blyton&#8217;s Famous Five). However, I can&#8217;t really say that I have been one all my life. Growing up, I braided manes of ponies and thought that Donatello was the coolest turtle. Thankfully, my parents never had strong feelings about &#8220;girl toys&#8221; and &#8220;boy&#8217;s toys.&#8221;  However, to certain people, I was less valued by the virtue of my gender, which is why feminism resonated so strongly with me later on in life (aka college). </p>
<p>Being excellent to people who are different than you is fantastic, but ignores the fact the society is composed by other people than you (general you) when societal inequalities are being referenced. While I can offer support, I can&#8217;t fight all inequalities by imposing my voice and power on someone else&#8217;s struggle.  </p>
<p>I got a little rambly here, since its the first time I articulated my feelings in writing, so I hope my perspective came across.</p>
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		<title>By: Shalcker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shalcker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They do point that out and yes, it can be either, or both, in different proportions.

Another interesting fact that they mention in that study is men memorizing pictures &quot;as is&quot; (by using right-brain structures for item placement and spatial relations in memorization), while women used left-brain structures more, perhaps pointing to semi-verbal deconstruction of scene while memorizing it.

Though you can&#039;t get any real conclusions from that without trying to confirm something you already consider to be true. :)

--
We cannot change biological differences, but sometimes we can help in other ways when those differences seem to prevent people from achieving their dreams.
We can and do change social norms (differences) constantly.
Those two things often intersect in strange ways.

For example, maternity leave. The point of maternity leave is that women can be mother _and_ remain being productive member of society without losing her job.
Then, as managers begin to optimize workplace, even small disruption of job/profits with maternity leave seems to be too much. So they don&#039;t hire women - not always main reason, but one of reasons anyway. And so women cannot be productive members of society in those spots.
So it seems for equality, ability and willingness of society to tolerate some inefficiencies is required. It has non-zero cost - but same goes for having unhappy people in your society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do point that out and yes, it can be either, or both, in different proportions.</p>
<p>Another interesting fact that they mention in that study is men memorizing pictures &#8220;as is&#8221; (by using right-brain structures for item placement and spatial relations in memorization), while women used left-brain structures more, perhaps pointing to semi-verbal deconstruction of scene while memorizing it.</p>
<p>Though you can&#8217;t get any real conclusions from that without trying to confirm something you already consider to be true. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
We cannot change biological differences, but sometimes we can help in other ways when those differences seem to prevent people from achieving their dreams.<br />
We can and do change social norms (differences) constantly.<br />
Those two things often intersect in strange ways.</p>
<p>For example, maternity leave. The point of maternity leave is that women can be mother _and_ remain being productive member of society without losing her job.<br />
Then, as managers begin to optimize workplace, even small disruption of job/profits with maternity leave seems to be too much. So they don&#8217;t hire women &#8211; not always main reason, but one of reasons anyway. And so women cannot be productive members of society in those spots.<br />
So it seems for equality, ability and willingness of society to tolerate some inefficiencies is required. It has non-zero cost &#8211; but same goes for having unhappy people in your society.</p>
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		<title>By: Risandre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Risandre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did read the study--a scientific experiment under a controlled environment that focuses on neural networks of emotional memory--and that quote was drawn from it more to make a point that there are always different factors and variables in experiments that need be studied further. The study tested two different hypothesis (affect intensity and cognitive intensity) with subjects (12 men and women) who were all right-handed.

Of course, I haven&#039;t mapped out the entire body of study that deals with neural networks based on biological differences, but I don&#039;t think the intense emotions you feel frequently relates to how often you physically express emotions]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did read the study&#8211;a scientific experiment under a controlled environment that focuses on neural networks of emotional memory&#8211;and that quote was drawn from it more to make a point that there are always different factors and variables in experiments that need be studied further. The study tested two different hypothesis (affect intensity and cognitive intensity) with subjects (12 men and women) who were all right-handed.</p>
<p>Of course, I haven&#8217;t mapped out the entire body of study that deals with neural networks based on biological differences, but I don&#8217;t think the intense emotions you feel frequently relates to how often you physically express emotions</p>
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		<title>By: spinks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What you can&#039;t know though is to what extent the difference could be explained by socialisation. ie. from childhood, girls are more socialised towards expressing and interpreting emotions. It needn&#039;t be a biological difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you can&#8217;t know though is to what extent the difference could be explained by socialisation. ie. from childhood, girls are more socialised towards expressing and interpreting emotions. It needn&#8217;t be a biological difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Shalcker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shalcker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Risandre:
What that study clearly shows is that there is significant and detectable difference in ability to memorize and recall emotional picture, and emotional intensity of that recall (as well as intensity of response to initial picture) between men and women.
&quot;Women had significantly more areas than men that were activated both by subjective emotional experience and by successful encoding of that experience into long-term memory.&quot;

Study also postulates that you may (&quot;may&quot; being key word here) be able to control situation and make them equal in the end by using stimulus that create same emotional response in both men and women - but that doesn&#039;t happen naturally, nor does abstract shows in which ways you could change stimulus to make them equal.

Study seems to support women being more emotional in recall of long-term memory. As such, extra care is warranted (as with any other cognitive/behavioural biases) as long as you want to remain objective and unbiased.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Risandre:<br />
What that study clearly shows is that there is significant and detectable difference in ability to memorize and recall emotional picture, and emotional intensity of that recall (as well as intensity of response to initial picture) between men and women.<br />
&#8220;Women had significantly more areas than men that were activated both by subjective emotional experience and by successful encoding of that experience into long-term memory.&#8221;</p>
<p>Study also postulates that you may (&#8220;may&#8221; being key word here) be able to control situation and make them equal in the end by using stimulus that create same emotional response in both men and women &#8211; but that doesn&#8217;t happen naturally, nor does abstract shows in which ways you could change stimulus to make them equal.</p>
<p>Study seems to support women being more emotional in recall of long-term memory. As such, extra care is warranted (as with any other cognitive/behavioural biases) as long as you want to remain objective and unbiased.</p>
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		<title>By: Risandre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Risandre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone beat me to the Bixler Consulting Group. I found the actual study by Carli around here : http://www.pnas.org/content/99/16/10789.full?sid=6905a4eb-11de-41c7-b959-991f1b66e3e1

&quot; It may be possible to manipulate the cognitive style of subjects through instruction or different types of stimuli and thus shift the observable laterality pattern as a function of task rather than sex,&quot; is how the study ends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone beat me to the Bixler Consulting Group. I found the actual study by Carli around here : <a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/99/16/10789.full?sid=6905a4eb-11de-41c7-b959-991f1b66e3e1" rel="nofollow">http://www.pnas.org/content/99/16/10789.full?sid=6905a4eb-11de-41c7-b959-991f1b66e3e1</a></p>
<p>&#8221; It may be possible to manipulate the cognitive style of subjects through instruction or different types of stimuli and thus shift the observable laterality pattern as a function of task rather than sex,&#8221; is how the study ends.</p>
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		<title>By: ironyca</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ironyca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re so funny! 

Here&#039;s what you said (you seem to have forgotten):
&quot;If there is one difference between men and women it is taht(sic) men can argue facts without emotion while women take any argument about facts as a personal attack against women.&quot;

And please, the quote above is from some consulting group (http://www.bixlerconsulting.com). You really ARE quoting random stuff on the internet! 

&quot;Of course you could easily have goggled any of this but I bet its much easier for you to just name call and claim there is no proof.&quot; 
- Nono, the burden of truth is on you, to prove your OWN statement.

Please Goodmongo, it&#039;s getting ridiculous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re so funny! </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what you said (you seem to have forgotten):<br />
&#8220;If there is one difference between men and women it is taht(sic) men can argue facts without emotion while women take any argument about facts as a personal attack against women.&#8221;</p>
<p>And please, the quote above is from some consulting group (<a href="http://www.bixlerconsulting.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bixlerconsulting.com</a>). You really ARE quoting random stuff on the internet! </p>
<p>&#8220;Of course you could easily have goggled any of this but I bet its much easier for you to just name call and claim there is no proof.&#8221;<br />
- Nono, the burden of truth is on you, to prove your OWN statement.</p>
<p>Please Goodmongo, it&#8217;s getting ridiculous.</p>
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