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		<title>By: The Third and Final Beta Weekend Event</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/first-seven-thoughts-on-gw2-beta/#comment-23186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Third and Final Beta Weekend Event]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I find most telling is that I&#8217;ve read a number of first impression posts from veteran MMO players that were giving the game its first shakeout this weekend.  And while a number of people talked [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I find most telling is that I&#8217;ve read a number of first impression posts from veteran MMO players that were giving the game its first shakeout this weekend.  And while a number of people talked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Machination</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/first-seven-thoughts-on-gw2-beta/#comment-20299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Machination]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t yet tell whether it&#039;s a blogger-only complaint, but I keep seeing it over and over -- the inability to make an old grizzled looking character (or a more um... &quot;portly&quot; character).

With the emphasis on personal story, I&#039;d have thought that ANet would have wanted a bit more background diversity. I understand why the characters are usually physically fit, because they all are a combat class. Not a crafting, economic, or political class. Still... miniskirts really need to be optional instead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t yet tell whether it&#8217;s a blogger-only complaint, but I keep seeing it over and over &#8212; the inability to make an old grizzled looking character (or a more um&#8230; &#8220;portly&#8221; character).</p>
<p>With the emphasis on personal story, I&#8217;d have thought that ANet would have wanted a bit more background diversity. I understand why the characters are usually physically fit, because they all are a combat class. Not a crafting, economic, or political class. Still&#8230; miniskirts really need to be optional instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Imakulata</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Imakulata]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be honest, at the level I played (up to 15-20, mostly PvE), I didn&#039;t find many things that confused me. New skills are always hard to get used to, WvW strategy was confusing but that was expected too; the only other thing I can think of was the downed state. I remember previous beta weekends had the tutorial bosses force you into downed state; I assume it was done to get the players used to it but it didn&#039;t help me much. (I only played the BWE3 tutorial before the graphical engine upgrade which resolved the low FPS issue.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, at the level I played (up to 15-20, mostly PvE), I didn&#8217;t find many things that confused me. New skills are always hard to get used to, WvW strategy was confusing but that was expected too; the only other thing I can think of was the downed state. I remember previous beta weekends had the tutorial bosses force you into downed state; I assume it was done to get the players used to it but it didn&#8217;t help me much. (I only played the BWE3 tutorial before the graphical engine upgrade which resolved the low FPS issue.)</p>
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		<title>By: Siha</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/first-seven-thoughts-on-gw2-beta/#comment-20222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, by that definition, *EVE* is a WoW clone - which is patently ridiculous. 

It takes a bit more similarity than just &quot;holy trinity!&quot; and &quot;questgivers!&quot; to be a &#039;WoW clone&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, by that definition, *EVE* is a WoW clone &#8211; which is patently ridiculous. </p>
<p>It takes a bit more similarity than just &#8220;holy trinity!&#8221; and &#8220;questgivers!&#8221; to be a &#8216;WoW clone&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: melponeme_k</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[melponeme_k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Yarr I wasn&#039;t picking the armor on the left side.  And why should that matter anyway?

Even covered up it still looks ridiculous.  Every other character looks professional but the female casters have to look like they ride the short bus.

I never received any of the other outfits that supposedly were available in drops.  Nor could I find them on the game&#039;s Black Lion auction shop.

And considering that there was post after post of complaints about this armor in the forums, not many people did receive the slightly better armor either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Yarr I wasn&#8217;t picking the armor on the left side.  And why should that matter anyway?</p>
<p>Even covered up it still looks ridiculous.  Every other character looks professional but the female casters have to look like they ride the short bus.</p>
<p>I never received any of the other outfits that supposedly were available in drops.  Nor could I find them on the game&#8217;s Black Lion auction shop.</p>
<p>And considering that there was post after post of complaints about this armor in the forums, not many people did receive the slightly better armor either.</p>
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		<title>By: Moonmonster</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/first-seven-thoughts-on-gw2-beta/#comment-20217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moonmonster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is the most stunningly shallow definition of WoW-clone I have ever seen. 

The WoW format is more to do with the style of combat (hotbars with a fairly large amount of skills), the layout of the world (quest hubs with overlapping goals), the progression of the game (pve solo to dungeons to raids), etc. &#039;

It sounds like you looked for a definition that allowed you to label your preferred game as Different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the most stunningly shallow definition of WoW-clone I have ever seen. </p>
<p>The WoW format is more to do with the style of combat (hotbars with a fairly large amount of skills), the layout of the world (quest hubs with overlapping goals), the progression of the game (pve solo to dungeons to raids), etc. &#8216;</p>
<p>It sounds like you looked for a definition that allowed you to label your preferred game as Different.</p>
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		<title>By: Yarr</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/first-seven-thoughts-on-gw2-beta/#comment-20216</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yarr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@melponeme_k

Here are some pics of the low level female light armors:

http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Light_Armor

They are different than the starter armor and you can mix and match pieces to get a look you like, as well as use transmutation stones (which I was getting from doing the personal story I believe) to keep a look as you continue on. So either your client was broken or perhaps you might have been picking the leftmost armor reward, which might (???) have been the same as the starter armor. I always went with the rightmost (Velvet) reward after picking it as the first reward, to get the full set.

The crafted set (Embroidered) is completely different as I made a set myself. The next level crafted was also completely different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@melponeme_k</p>
<p>Here are some pics of the low level female light armors:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Light_Armor" rel="nofollow">http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Light_Armor</a></p>
<p>They are different than the starter armor and you can mix and match pieces to get a look you like, as well as use transmutation stones (which I was getting from doing the personal story I believe) to keep a look as you continue on. So either your client was broken or perhaps you might have been picking the leftmost armor reward, which might (???) have been the same as the starter armor. I always went with the rightmost (Velvet) reward after picking it as the first reward, to get the full set.</p>
<p>The crafted set (Embroidered) is completely different as I made a set myself. The next level crafted was also completely different.</p>
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		<title>By: João Carlos</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/first-seven-thoughts-on-gw2-beta/#comment-20215</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[João Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Siha, if a MMO have the holly trinity and quest givers, it is a WoW-clone.

Playing TSW I see quest givers (they just don&#039;t have the &quot;!&quot;, but NPC and objects are quest givers...)  and see chat &quot;looking for healer for dungeon X&quot; and &quot;looking for tank for dungeon Y&quot;.

TSW have the holly trinit and quest givers, so TSW IS a WoW-clone. And the &quot;zombie appocalipse&quot; setting have the same problem that the &quot;3th pillar&quot; have at SWTOR: someday will be boring.

TSW will ahve the same fate that SWTOR had.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siha, if a MMO have the holly trinity and quest givers, it is a WoW-clone.</p>
<p>Playing TSW I see quest givers (they just don&#8217;t have the &#8220;!&#8221;, but NPC and objects are quest givers&#8230;)  and see chat &#8220;looking for healer for dungeon X&#8221; and &#8220;looking for tank for dungeon Y&#8221;.</p>
<p>TSW have the holly trinit and quest givers, so TSW IS a WoW-clone. And the &#8220;zombie appocalipse&#8221; setting have the same problem that the &#8220;3th pillar&#8221; have at SWTOR: someday will be boring.</p>
<p>TSW will ahve the same fate that SWTOR had.</p>
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		<title>By: Guild Wars 2: Progress doesn&#8217;t always mean better &#124; Bio Break</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/first-seven-thoughts-on-gw2-beta/#comment-20209</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guild Wars 2: Progress doesn&#8217;t always mean better &#124; Bio Break]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] more I think about it, the more I agree with several bloggers out there who are expressing dissatisfaction with the skill system and hotbar setup.  It&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more I think about it, the more I agree with several bloggers out there who are expressing dissatisfaction with the skill system and hotbar setup.  It&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: melponeme_k</title>
		<link>http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/first-seven-thoughts-on-gw2-beta/#comment-20208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[melponeme_k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I played one character quite a bit until almost 20 in the previous beta and all my story reward armor looked like the starter armor.  Supposedly craft armor looks different too but again, all the crafts looked like the beginning armor.

Frankly the armor felt like a practical joke and the joke was on the player playing the character with the tutu.

And I don&#039;t think they will change it either.  And throwing in new armor later in the game does nothing to change the fact that this particular armor set for female casters is horrendous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played one character quite a bit until almost 20 in the previous beta and all my story reward armor looked like the starter armor.  Supposedly craft armor looks different too but again, all the crafts looked like the beginning armor.</p>
<p>Frankly the armor felt like a practical joke and the joke was on the player playing the character with the tutu.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think they will change it either.  And throwing in new armor later in the game does nothing to change the fact that this particular armor set for female casters is horrendous.</p>
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