Comments on: [GW2]What do you give the gamer who has everything? More progression!

By: kiantremayne

kiantremayne — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:10:38 +0000

Legendary weapons currently have the the same stats as exotics. All of that hard work is for the sake of looking cool and showing off that you did the hard work.
Ascended gear is (a bit) better stat-wise. What ANet have said is that when ascended weapons come in, legendary weapons will get bumped up to match them in stats so they aren’t inferior, but still won’t be better than anything else out there.
So basically, at the moment if you’re looking for ‘best stats’ – get an exotic weapon, and there are plenty for under 2 gold on the trading post as long as you aren’tr obesessive about a specific look (and my engineer got a very funky hi-tech asura rifle, the Azure Railgun, for 1g50s). If or when you get your legendary it won’t make a whit of difference to your effectiveness but people will turn their heads as you walk past and go “Wow, that guy has no life” When ascended weapons come out they will have a (probably marginal) edge in effectiveness that will help in the new dungeon but is not necessary in current PvE (quite doable even without exotic level gear), is completely irrelevant in sPvP (where you don’t wear your real gear anyway) and won’t save you in WvW (where you tend to die to siege engines and/or being zerged).

By: rimecat

rimecat — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:09:56 +0000

Yes-ish. As you said, taste if very personal. How much of an RPer you are is also important. I had some gear in LotRO that I really didn’t like but was very appropriate for some situations. Corner case, I know, but aesthetics is contentious in the best cases.

By: spinks

spinks — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:34:41 +0000

Ah but the gear in WoW does have better stats. if you were collecting gear that had identical stats to your starting zone set but that didn’t look as good, you might not bother.

By: spinks

spinks — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:33:39 +0000

Heh, I assumed they were better due to the crazy grind. I was so stunned by what you had to do that I didn’t check the actual stats.

By: bhagpuss

bhagpuss — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:23:09 +0000

This is the bit that threw me, too. I was under the impression they had the same stats as Exotics, just a different look. Either I and many others had that wrong all along, or it’s been retro-fitted so that Legendaries now have better stats than Exotics, or Legendaries and Exotics *are* still the same but Ascended has something on top and is therefore “better”.

It doesn’t materially affect me because I never planned to get Legendaries or do dungeons. It does appear to materially affect the spirit of the game as it was repeatedly described and indeed marketed before launch, though. It’s hardly surprising a lot of people who may have chosen to play it because of those design decisions aren’t happy that they are now being trashed, even if it does prove to have been a sound move commercially.

By: rimecat

rimecat — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:10:45 +0000

“who wants to grind dungeons so that they can buy some exotic gear with a new skin that they then transmute to looking like the old gear?”

I don’t know – my DK transmogs his armor to the starting zone set and weapon (when possible) to the Barov sword.

More broadly, no game company is going to please everyone and they really need to stop trying. Just decide on a supported play-style and bend your efforts in that direction.

By: Zubon

Zubon — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:56:31 +0000

A new tier of gear is being introduced that sits between exotics and legendaries in terms of stats
This falls into the same category of “true because we say it is,” but people are oddly repeating it. Exotics and legendaries have the exact same stats. The only reason that legendaries will be anything other than cosmetically different than other exotics is because they are adding this new change … and then the new items will have exactly the same stats as exotics, not a step in between.

By: darkeye

darkeye — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:50:44 +0000

There isn’t just cosmetic progression. There is also acquiring various sets of armour with different stat setups, I may start with a set of fairly balanced stats, but later may want one that is pure berserkers or one that is more healing/defensive focused. That may vary by profession, build and playstyle. Having that kind of versatility does take time acquiring the different sets. I wish they stuck to that model, maybe better communicate it to players because many will say what’s the point, all the while working on adding armour with more stat combinations from a variety of sources, and also work on giving professions as varied amount of playstyles as possible.

There are also weapons that are in between exotic and legendary in terms of acquisition, they are made with specific recipes in the mystic forge, so can’t accept that argument put out by Arenanet either. On my necro I’m going with a staff that drops, and couldn’t be happier, plus karma exotics suits the main playstyle, the karma easily acquired from monthly achievements. Other characters may need much more investment of gold and materials to get the right stats.

By: MMORaid

MMORaid — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:09:39 +0000

They just posted that it’ll be obtainable in WvW and PvE. “Ascended and infusion rewards will be available in both PvE and WvW over time, and be made available through all sorts of content around the world including existing content. “

By: spinks

spinks — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:08:21 +0000

I agree, I’m sure they had every intention of having other ways to get the gear but it would be good if they announced that sooner rather than later.