So that was the Icecrown Citadel Lower Spire

Finally after all those months of waiting, jousting, questing, clearing out necropoli, Old Gods and Dragon Aspects, our characters have had the chance they’ve all been waiting for to charge in against the Lich King head on.

And lo, it was good. In all the flurry of the dungeon finder excitement and people discussing minor strategic details and fretting over the difficulty and the bear butt rockets, it would be easy for a reader to miss the fact that the Icecrown Citadel is a fantastically cool and very fun raid instance.

None of the boss fights are clunkers, they’re certainly all good fun to tank, and the atmosphere, music and graphics are superb. Imagine that you’ve fought through Icecrown, using every trick in the book to set back the Lich King’s plans and finally arrived with the elite of the Horde army at the fortress itself. A siege engine (bringing fond memories of Warhammer) has done its work and the entrance is now open.

Inside, an eerie chill pervades the stone and metal halls. The crafters of the ebon blade and argent dawn have joined forces to set up a base camp for the assault. The leaders of both factions are present, and Tirion even gives one of his trademark dreadful pep talks as final checks are completed and we get ready for our first push. One of my goals this week is to get more screenshots to provide for a better travelogue.

Note: I’ve had bosses who gave pep talks like that. You know the sort where you feel worse after hearing it than you did before?

For now, here Spinks is sandwiched between two bears as we’re about to go pull the first boss. Feel free to criticise my UI (and I can’t remember why I had recount up either).


We’ve been raiding Icecrown every week apart from Christmas, and although Saurfang still hasn’t fallen to us, we’re had some good attempts and it’s just a matter of time. (Hopefully tonight, even.)

Even my death knight, still struggling with that new shiny badge armour smell, has been able to sneak into a pick up group to go farm some reputation in there. But bosses will die eventually, the main thing is … she’s in Icecrown too!

Fun Times for Tanks

I’m finding that all of the Icecrown boss fights so far have been really fun to tank. When you play through this type of content, you remember that yes, Blizzard actually is that good at creating fun raid fights.

The key is that all the fights can use more than one tank (I hear that people do Lady Deathwhisper with a single tank in 10 man, as long as someone else can step up in phase 2 – maybe a feral switching to bear or death knight in frost presence.)

There are some standard techniques used for this. The saberlash requires more than one tank (although this may change once we all outgear the fight), fights where tanks get debuffed and have to taunt off each other are another way to ensure more than one tank has a use, and fights where there are several spawns of mobs to tank in different areas need more than one tank running around.

But truth be told, the raid fights are significantly more fun for us when several tanks are required. We enjoy working as a tanking team, and it feels like a reward for the fact we’ve played together all expansion and all trust each other.

Marrowgar – The main tank issue here is his saberlash mechanic. Saberlash, introduced back in Zul Aman, means that the boss has a large cleave attack where the damage is divided evenly between characters standing in front of him.  So the answer is to have several tanks standing on top of each other, fighting for aggro on the boss.

I always found this good fun because it needs the tank corps to be quite coordinated. We run in together. We run out together. We dodge the fires and whirlwinds together. It’s very important that you learn to keep an eye on the other tanks and spot where they are moving.

In the picture above, you can see us standing together at one side of the room. This is (thanks to Moo) where we usually pull from. We’d run in together from here and the rest of the raid would be near the entrance to the room.

Lady Deathwhisper – I enjoy fights where I get to zoom around and pick up loads of adds, and Lady Deathwhisper certainly fits that mould. Not only do we have our own mobs to pick up, but when one of the fanatics becomes deformed (ie. grows huge, hits like a truck, should be kited rather than tanked) we can pingpong them across the room by taunting from other tanks and back again.

Communication is key here. Because the room is large, it helps the raid if we call out when one of our mobs just became empowered or deformed.

Phase two has one of the basic ™ tactics for using multiple tanks. The boss puts a debuff on whoever is top of the threat list. After the debuff has stacked to a certain amount, someone else has to taunt her away until the debuff has fallen off. So you have two tanks who have to pay attention to each other’s debuffs.

Gunship – Rise up, sons of the Horde! (I giggle every time Saurfang says this.)

This one needs two tanks because there are two different locations with tankable mobs. One stays behind to pick up the adds who jump across (picking up the captain as priority because he whirlwinds, I believe) and the other jumps across to the far boat to tank the boss.

So there’s lots of running around to do, lots of target switching, and rocket packs to play with also. This was always going to be a winner.

Note that if you are tanking the boss on the far boat, if you pull him close to the edge then your healers can help heal without having to jump across themselves.

Deathbringer – This is the dullest of the Icecrown fights for melee, since their main goal is to hit the boss and not get hit by the adds. It isn’t a lot more exciting for tanks. Again the debuff mechanic is used which means the main thing to focus on is taunting off the other tank when she gets marked.

I’m looking forwards to seeing the next wing too. How about you? Had a chance to see Icecrown yet?

8 thoughts on “So that was the Icecrown Citadel Lower Spire

  1. Deathbringer:-

    Its borning when done well. It can get rather exciting (ie brief and terminal) when the tanking crew is less than 100% on the ball. Did an alt run t’other night with a tank not used to raiding (ie fine as solo tank in 5 mans) and we just didnt get the tanks working together 100% andf as a result Saurfang self healed. DPS was doing okay if a bit low and the healer crew were solid as rocks but we just couldnt out nuke him with heals from the tank debuff.

    My somewhat rambling point is :-It may be made to look easy by the pro’s it may even feel easy to them, it doesnt allways follow it is actualy easy.

  2. Seriously, you just sold me Icecrown. I guess that’s my problem – if I start playing WoW again, I will want to raid. Raiding is WoW for me. And I would not want to miss ICC…the problem would be catching up, since I left the game after finishing up Naxx/before Ulduar was released.

    But damn, it sounds like fun. Oooooooh, fun.

    • Petter:- Gearing is ‘easy’ now. If you have time to do a few instances.

      Basicaly you get 2 Frost (ie top level) badges a day from doing the random heroic and a handfull of Triumph (next level down). So if you instance a LOT its possible to get hold of a fair number of frost badges and a gazillion triumph badges in short order. Some of our tanks are pushing 400+ triumph badges. It is _very_ easy to gear to be ready for Trial of the Grand Crusader and pretty easy for 10 man ICC. My ‘lock alt who was rubbish geared is now decked out in pretty decent gear and kicking out 4k+ dps in ICC 10 man for a couple of weeks somewhat patchily doing dailys. My wife (who’s far more hardcore than me) geared her Healadin well enough to tank 10 ICC in the same period. Its NEVER been easier to gear for near top end content. On the flip side if you dont have time to do the dailys several times a week your old gear is going tobe looking pretty shabby pretty quickly.

  3. I kind of like the fact that there’s less raid damage going around if you know what the smurf to do, that is, move out of the proverbial fire. There is hardly any unavoidable AoE on bosses, a mechanic I simply can’t stand.

    Instead there’s lots of target changing going on, which means there’s finally some challenge for DPS (apart from the “moving out of the fire” stuff), instead of loading all the hard parts on the healers. Marrowgar has a Kel’thuzad like mechanic where the targeted player has to be freed by DPSing instead of getting healed, Lady Deathwhisper’s adds actually require you to not just press Tab, and Saurfang has adds that need to be kited. Granted, melee DPS get left out in the cold, but as ranged DPS the fight is awesome.

    And yeah, agreed on the jetpacks. Why can’t engineers make those?

  4. Tanking Saurfang as a DK is slightly more interesting.
    Trying to keep an add CoI’d as well as watching for the debuff on the other tank at least gives you something to do. Doing it with a focus macro would be too easy.

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  6. Regarding Saurfang being boring to tank, it’s not the most interesting fight, but it can liven things up and possibly help with the kill, if whenever blood beasts spawn you’re on the lookout for any getting within 5-10 yards of the healers.

    I lead a couple semi pug 25 mans through there ever week, and the main tips I’ve found for that fight are:
    -Save bloodlust for 20%, when the healers need it most.
    -Have each hunter assigned to a different blood beast and use distracting shot. I actually assigned all the ranged dps to a certain blood beast to kill first, then they kill the rest, an back on the boss.
    -Let the first Mark of the Fallen Champion DIE. This along took us from 2-4 shotting it to 1 shotting it reliably.

  7. I’ve done IC every week on 10 man, haven’t been able to try 25 yet though. Marrowgar hit like a truck in 10 man the first week before the nerf, now that fight is really easy. Deathwhisper feels like it should be harder with everything going on but it really isn’t. Gunship is entertaining, just for the fun of having a rocket pack on a bear. Saurfang…well, I’d have to say that is easily the most boring of the four so far.

    Here’s how Saurfang goes for me, I unglyph maul so I don’t hit an add, I taunt back and forth with the other tank. We don’t move, we mostly ignore the adds (save for taunting them back towards us if one gets too close to ranged – and only the one currently tanking the boss). It really is pretty boring, as far as tank responsibility goes it feels like Gormok all over again.

    But there’s new bosses for this week, and things should get a bit more interesting.

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