[Diablo 3] In which I avoid all difficulty and reach max level

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This is a barbarian warrior with her natural weaponry, a massive 2 handed flaming axe.  (If you are already bored of the D3 posts fear not, this is likely to be the last for awhile.)

What I love about this screenshot is that even after being zoomed in a few times, you can see the attention to detail in the graphics. Her fingers even close around the axe haft as if she’s taking the weight and stands ready to swing it at something (probably a demon), and when you think how small the character models are in D3, that is a lot of attention to detail. It’s also far better graphically than WoW, where I’m sure my warrior’s skeletal fingers did not always close around the weapon she was wielding.

So – level 60

I’m currently on Act 3 of Hell and my barbarian reached level 60 recently. The way difficulty works in D3 is that your character has two main attributes: damage and survivability. Your goal is to have enough survivability to stand toe to toe with monsters long enough to either kill them or land a few hits and then run off again. So I found I tended to swing between high survivability builds and high damage ones, depending on what type of gear I had available and whether I’d just switched up an Act. In a new Act (or difficulty) typically you have to raise your survivability as a priority before you can start focussing on bringing the damage up to match, otherwise you just die all the time. This is also a bit dull because chipping away at mobs slowly is not as exciting as big numbers and fast kills.

High enough damage will pretty much negate any combination of elite mob suffixes by the simple mechanic of CLICKCLICKDEAD.  Even those charming molten/vortex/firechains combos.

Hence my current 2 hander. Level 60- weapons with high damage are EXPENSIVE, going way beyond any interest I have in farming cash. Blue weapons, and particularly 2 handers, are far more affordable. With this setup I am barging my way nicely through Act 3 of Hell level and suspect I’ll be fine through Act 4 as well. The weapon made a big difference as I was getting bored of poking mobs politely with the equivalent of a knitting needle, at least they die fast now. I may not bother with Inferno.

The end game, such as it is, involves farming for gear or for gold to spend on gear in the auction house. If this is not of great interest to you, then really you might as well roll some alts, focus on achievements, or play with friends. (Or play something else.). There’s no special point having great gear unless you want to a) finish Inferno mode and/or b) farm more gear. I imagine the RMAH will see lots of use from people who do want to buy stacks of millions of gold so that they can buy high end weapons off the gold AH (expect galloping inflation at the top end once that comes online) but I’m honestly not sure I see the point. It’s not going to unlock new and brilliant gameplay or content. Meanwhile my blue 960dps 2 hander is perfectly good for Hell Level – better than good really – and cost me about 25k.

The other mechanic that helps you farm gear at level 60 is a buff called nephalem valour which only level 60 characters get. You get a stack of NV every time you kill a pack of elite mobs, it can stack up to 5 times, lasts 30 mins, and increases the chance that mobs will drop magic items. What was far more surprising to me is that NV doesn’t drop off when you die. I feel this goes against the whole ethos of roguelikes, but what do I know?

Ways in which I personally have made the game easier for myself so far:

  • Using the auction house
  • Grinding a couple of levels in a lower Act when I was having difficulty with one Act.
  • Hopping into a public group to get my kill of Belial in Hell mode. The group was actually really friendly, everyone was helping and ressing each other, and everyone  thanked the group afterwards. But if I hadn’t gotten frustrated after wiping to Belial ONCE in solo mode, I might not have done it. I do not think this is a testament to my patience.
  • Changing my abilities in combat. I didn’t realise you could do this until I tried it. Apparently you can change your gear in combat too (ie. haul on some +magic find gear just before a boss is about to die.)
  • Changing the batteries on my mouse when it started to get sluggish.

The auction house is the greatest of all these difficulty changers, because of the effect higher dps and resilience has on the gameplay. The AH also makes it easier to try out offbeat builds – I had one going for a while where I took abilities that increased the chance of mobs dropping health globes and wore a lot of gear which gave extra health on using health globes. It actually worked quite well.

It’s hard for me to gauge the longevity of the game. It is fun. It is fun when playing with friends or random groups. It does not require much thought. So even if you don’t have the stomach for farming Inferno Level (which I don’t) it may continue to be a cheerful device for chatting to friends over a few dead demons.

Farmville

The big issue with ‘endgame’ for D3 is that endgame for D2 was, frankly, tedious as all hell. It involved endless boss runs for loot. And they’ve sort of copied it but not exactly and with an auction house tacked on. The auction house effectively means that farming areas you are able to easily farm for magic items will never feel worthwhile (unless you are able to farm Act 3/4 Inferno). This was clearly not the intent, and players were probably intended to farm the areas they could manage until they got the occasional lucky gear up that would eventually let them progress. So I assume there are small chances of higher end loot dropping an Act before you’d actually need it.

But who is going to farm an area endlessly waiting for lucky drops if they can cash in and just buy something better instead? Someone with more willpower than me, for sure.

Instead, people will farm for gold, which is a lot easier and less random. But because it’s less random, it lacks the spikes of excitement that good loot drops provide. I think Blizzard could at least have tried to innovate an interesting item farming model. Let players unlock different areas in which to farm different items. Let them have more crafting drops to transmute existing items or rearrange their stats. Let them learn by trial and error which areas or mobs in the world are more likely to drop which types of items.

What patches will come?

Blizzard have a dev blog post up discussing Diablo 3. Interesting snippets are that 54% of hardcore players picked a female character (they don’t say what percentage of those are female demon hunters), and they’ve listed the most common runes used by level 60 characters, which include some head scratchers but what do I know?

They discuss their criteria for making tweaks and changes, including some of the nerfs that already came down the line.

Regarding the changes to Lingering Fog, Boon of Protection, and Force Armor: we determined these skills were simply more powerful than they should be, and we felt their impact on class balance and how each class was perceived warranted hotfixes as soon as we were able. However, we don’t want you to be worried that a hotfix nerf is lurking around the corner every day. If a skill is strong, but isn’t really breaking the game, we want you to have your fun. Part of the enjoyment of Diablo is finding those super-strong builds, and we want players to be excited to use something they discovered that feels overpowered

There is also some discussion around the difficulty of Inferno level and whether Legendary items are good enough or not. Of interest to anyone considering levelling up their blacksmith is also:

we’re looking to adjust the Blacksmith costs for training (gold and pages) and crafting from levels 1-59, and reduce the cost of combining gems so that it only requires two gems instead of three (up to Flawless Square). Both of these changes are scheduled for patch 1.0.3.

I think the main issue with Inferno (not having run it myself) is that the difficulty is similar to the difficulty in other tiers when you’re a bit undergeared. I remember thinking I was dying too quickly in Nightmare mode too until I hied me to the auction house. Just it’s much harder to overgear it at level 60. So really the problem with Inferno is not that it’s radically harder compared to the rest of the game, it’s that the difficulty is posed in exactly the same way as the rest of the game when endgame players might have preferred a more skill based challenge.

Farming Locations

A few thoughts on where is easy to farm for cash/items/xp in the game.

The Frugal Gamer has some ideas for places to farm in Act I.

In Act 2, I farmed xp in the Black Soulstone quest (lots of pacey dungeons).

In Act 3, I like the Rakkis Crossing area just before Siegebreaker (Siegebreaker Quest) as you get Tyrael along with you.

Finally some words from our sponsor

I have far too much fun reading the companion chat, even if it’s not especially stunning in itself.

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17 thoughts on “[Diablo 3] In which I avoid all difficulty and reach max level

    • I guess people will drop any game if they are bored with endgame. It kind of begs the question of how many hours play you can expect from any game.

      Blizzard may be hoping that Auction House hijinks and a PvP mode (when they get it out) will give the game some lasting appeal. Plus they may have expansion or update plans in mind.

    • If you play 5 hours with it or 500, Blizzard still get their $60.

      Personally I’ve finished it in normal mode. I’ll probably spend some time with an alt and go through it again in nightmare. And that will be it, enough other games to play and I’m happy with what I got for my money.

  1. The random nature of D3 does make expansions slightly easier to make, though. Instead of putting it all to the endgame, they can spread new prefixes, suffixes, item types, boss powers etc around the entire game. Not that I’m complaining about lack of content; My play time is well above most single-player games already, and I haven’t even finished Hell yet.

    • Yeah, I’d say it’s been great value to me for the £23 I spent on it. I’m kind of fascinated (in an appalled way) at how easy it seems for Blizzard to incentivise me to keep playing through the same content, when I really struggle to want to repeat Bioware games even though I do enjoy them.

      That’s actually kind of impressive. And I still really like my Barb, and have had fun playing with Arb and friends, so I’m not dropping the game like a hot cake or anything.

      I am a bit concerned that my mouse buttons might be wearing out though :)

      • I’m kind of fascinated (in an appalled way) at how easy it seems for Blizzard to incentivise me to keep playing through the same content, when I really struggle to want to repeat Bioware games even though I do enjoy them.

        The cynic in me says that maybe it’s because the appeal of a Blizzard game is different than the appeal of a Bioware game.

      • This is my first Diablo game. I like it, it’s really fun, and I’m very satisfied with my purchase, but I don’t really understand the hype very much. Were people really expecting to be playing it in six months? Was that what happened with D2?

        I’ve now finished the game on Normal. I *might* get round to finishing it on Nightmare if for whatever reason I want some light relief between other games I’m playing. Can’t see myself hauling my way through it a third time though.

        Am I doing it wrong?

      • @Everblue Players are *still* playing D2. Time will tell if this will ring true for D3 or if it will kill off D2. I think part of what Blizz would like is to eventually shut down those free servers in favor offering paid services in D3.

  2. Per hours spent while it’s still fun, it’s totally worth the price.

    Though their hotfixes make me question do they even understand inherent limitations of chosen online platform…

    I mean, 1/1.5 second Smoke Screen? Really?!

    I’m playing at fairly stable 250-300ms, and even playing perfectly in inferno, deaths are infuriating. I can see cloud of desecration forming under my feet, i press smoke screen (which actually activates) and move away immediately, at increased movement speed, no less, and i still die.

    I can see enemy moving to me, i press vault, it moves me away, hit still connects.

    I press smoke screen to shake mobs off me, they keep running to me ignoring it completely.

    I can see melee mob dying full 15-20 yards away… his last hit still connects and kills me. And any hit is oneshot.

    If they really want to make game “hard” like that, they’ll have to trust client much more. Yes, that would open it for potential “hacking”, but you can’t have both “online” and “sub-second precision required” without trusting client.

  3. I realize this has an ‘always online’ component – but comparing this to … say swtor – is hardly a good comparison.

    Diablo (in all three forms) has always been repetitive and grindy at higher levels. The point of this game isn’t to be the only game you play for the next x years. This is a game you can play once a month and have as much fun as the guy who’s putting 60 hours a week into – if anything it’s closer to the model that I wish MMO’s would move towards.

    I have a hard time playing more than one MMO at a time with any real progress – and then I end up with a backlog of games that I wanted to play but didn’t have time for.

    There used to be a time when you’d get a game and play it for a month or two and then that was it.

    The beauty of D3 (for me) is that I can pick this game up two months from now and burn out on it all over again. Or when I’m bored with MMO of the month I can go grind out a new toon in D3 – or my buddies and I go play for a weekend 3 years from now – the game will be there and just as fun when you pick it back up as it was the first time.

    I don’t really expect it to give me 40-60 hours a week for a year. I do expect it to give me 300-400+ hours over the course of a few years.

    Different type of game – it’s certainly not an MMO.

  4. The scoundrel is clearly the companion to go with. I swapped to the enchantress for my second run through and her quips are not nearly up to the scoundrel’s level. And I suspect the templar won’t be as much fun either.

    • I was a bit taken aback in Act 1 when he asked if my character would share some wine with him and she said she didn’t drink with strange men. She’s a barbarian warrior, I expect her to drink ANY MAN under the table! I’d like him a bit better if he was less of a total sleazebag but … yeah :)

      I thought the enchantress was quite good in Act 4, she’s the only person who expresses genuine regret about the lost NPC and seems quite interested in the locale and people around her. The scoundrel just wonders if he has a chance with Auriel.

      • Ah, there is the male/female interaction going on as well. The enchantress keeps asking my male barb if he has ever thought about marriage and if he is considered handsome for his people. I preferred the scoundrel’s unbridled lechery, complaining, and failed attempts at male bonding.

      • The Barbarian of either sex is actually kind of prudish and apparently does not approve of non-punching related antics.

        From my other characters, The male Witch Doctor is beffudedly good natured and the Monk is a raging dick.

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